More on Paradise, CA Jones Kin and Hoffman kin Genealogy Wake UP

Yesterday's Newspaper the San Diego Union Tribune had an article on the victims.

It started with thousands of Camp Fire victims still with out a place to stay.  What is wrong with us Americans? Of course what is wrong with our businesses and government?

Being thankful that the Jones descendant survived and did not loose their house. This is the third time the fire hit and he said he cleared a larger area last trip and has cleared an even larger area now for the future.  We visited after the previous fire but not since this recent one last summer.  He has also changed the pictures and movie film systems into safer saving. Hopefully between he and his brothers they have shared and split data for family to have. Knowing I have some from his one brother and is very grateful for the data. We grew up together for about 4 years and were close long after we all graduated high school and married. Laughing I copied jumping out of the swing like they did and ended up needing stitches in my face. They landed on their feet. We fed calves and chickens and animals together.  We waded in the dam in the warm weather. They learned to swim. I kept sinking.
Finally mastering it a bit in 1964 in NAS Lemoore.  I do not float but I can swim.

Being sad that the descendants of Thomas Neal and Phebe Hoffman of Greene Co. PA then after CW
moved to IA. Later family came to Oakland then some up to Chico and Paradise, CA. This family lost all their home possessions. Some that had been kept since PA in the 1880's.

In days of old a letter was written and passed on to the next member to read and add data then forwarded to another member to add and forward.  Many went back to the original sender which was Henry Huffman/Hoffman. He changed name in 1850's learning that the name Huffman did not exist in Germany.  ( I have that in a letter he wrote, Thankfully).   Many of the older children used Huffman.  But think, with a brogue, it could be Houghman, Huffman, Huffmann, Hoffman, Hoffman, Hoofman. O yes there are a few more.  Henry's younger children used the newer/ original spelling.

I found it interesting how the Greene Co. People split this family.  Amazed at the bias that was brought up and discussed which I attempted to show them that concept was not accurate.  We as humans some times really do not behave well.

Why do I write this, to make people aware that the area needs our help if you can do that. Also to make Genealogists aware that we need to protect our data better than most of us do.  I am very remiss in this area. Which means what I have from Margery Little I need to preserve with intensity. Pictures and letters, that can no longer be gotten or shared by their line. Yes she shared some with me.

I have constant contact with Iowa families and am hoping that the tornadoes there do not do more damage to our documentation. A few years ago the CEDAR RIVER went over banks and a 3rd cousin dumped much due to water damage.  If it gets wet, FREEZE IT do not dump it. Our data is shrinking due to natural situations.  ??? Yes and NO.  WE NEED to care for it more properly. Myself included. It had the name of our Indian in the files he had he said also a couple of other vary important data not sure can be located again.  Ironic I have her picture but no name.

So Genealogists it's time to re address our safe method of storages and preserving our data.
If the tree is on a thumb drive share it with people in several parts of the USA. The same for pictures. Firevaults, if you have original deeds, wills etc.   I would love to see a good archivist come and give our society a talk on these topics.  My Deed of 1790s is huge and in picture frame. I do not want to bend it like the cousin did whom sent it to me.  I suspect most societies could have this, a full day topic for an event. Letters, postcards, pictures, Wills, Deeds, Obits, Newspaper clippings, Marriage records and the list goes on.  I do not know of anyone that it all put together but Phyllis Goodwin Learned did one of the best, I have seen.

Virginia Taylor do you think we could find someone to or many to do this????

Paradise, California has Needs

I have family in Paradise area. The town is no longer there. Having just learned from Dick EASTMAN that they would like to rebuild their genealogical library I  posted it on the Educational Page.
Here I want to tell you of some of what I know that  is happening there.

First I dislike FIRE with a passion. At age 5/6 we were nearly burnt out. In 1966 my parents home was burned all but the house and antique barn. Dad's brand new dairy barn that was to be inspected the next day and insured was lost. There was no recompensation due to not inspected.  All because people were smoking in the hayfield and it was set fire.

My cousin married a young lady I knew, that's home burned before they married and were grown. Sonoma County also.

My class mate was seriously burned 90 % of her body from a fire at age 6. She spent every vacation and some and time off school having scar tissue moved, adjusted or transplanted. My other classmates should remember her. I HOPE.  I would go to SF to see her in summer while she recovered from the surgeries, when ever we could.

Now my family has lost another home and all their belongings. Mom's cousin,  My cousin lost all but his house and was not injured. Of course that is not true. It does injure you when you experience these things.

Their water can not be drank, the amount of those died and burnt are hard to digest.  The news does not ever really tell us all. Many were, as far as I have learned, never found.

I worry about their mail and how they get it. I have concerns for their health for all the chemicals used to put down the fire.  I worry about the water situation and how do you make it safe to use or drink.

I have to give this all to God to help them and ask that you all think of volunteering a book, a binder or something to help them recover and be able to start to live again not just exist.

I am working with a Genealogist there to help them start thanks to Oregon starting the push

Kathy commented on Genealogical Forum of Oregon Challenges Other Societies to Help Rebuild the Paradise Genealogical Society's Library. in response to ourfamiliesblog: I have books, quarterlies and others books, our society has removed. Do not understand why but maybe they could use them??? Not everything is on the internet. Susi Pentico, Cousin lives there and recently learned a cousin of MOMS lost their home there and we lost lots of HOFFMAN photos and documents. The LIttle’s of … Continue reading Genealogical Forum of Oregon Challenges Other Societies to Help Rebuild the Paradise Genealogical Society’s Library Susi: I am a member of the Paradise Genealogical Society living in Chico and am working to coordinate donation of materials. We would love to have your books and other materials. Please feel free to email me directly. Thanks so much, Kathy klb95928@gmail.com

Dad You Are Missed... Ray Dee Jones Sr

 Our Dad was born in Waterloo, Iowa to Victoria Mae (Ida Mae) Foulk Jones and Carl Fremont Jones. 19 May 1913. He was raised in Iowa, and Wyoming, mostly Wyoming.

Calvin Fay Jones b 15 May 1843 Rensselaer Co. NY d 23 Sept 1910, Nashua, IA (his father)
wife was Hannah Julian Young b 13 Sept 1850 Bellidere, Boone Co. Ill. d 27 July 1941, Moorhead, Clay Co. Minn.  They married 5 July 1868. Butler Co. IA.

Noyes Jones  b 31 Mar 1808/9 Rensselaer Co. Ny, d 17 April 1881 Chickasaw Co.  IA,
wife was Susan Madison/ Mattison  b 24 Mar 1818, Vermont d 13 Feb 1881 Chickasaw Co. IA.
They married 1832 Mount Holyoke, Mass.  (this is still tenative)

Noel Jones b 1785 near Albany, NY  disappears after 1810 census as does his wife Susannah.
Listed in the 1810 census as family 1810 1 male under 10, males 16-25  1 male, ditto 1 female 16-25

Abel/Roscomb Jones,  A letter from Jones in IOWA showed Silas, Sr as ancestor. My research implied Abel could be father due to data on Census. If not maybe he raised his brothers boy when Noel seems to disappear after 1810.  Silas's first two children. ** DNA confirms this.

His family descends from  Silas Jones Sr  of East Greenwich RI. Which descends from Teague Jones and Rahamana, descendant of Permaquid Abenaki Samoset and (Margret? )

Silas Jones Sr wife was Susannah Sweet daughter of Benjamin Sweet and Margaret Hammett.
married 21 Nov 1742 East Greenwich, RI.

Silas Jones Sr b 11 May 1721 Greenwich, Rhode Island d 14 Oct 1802 Petersburg, Rensselaer Co. NY
Susannah Sweet b 3 May 1725 Greenwich R.I.   (May have died 3 May 1795, not proven yet.)

(m 1832 Mass not yet proven to my satisfaction)

**

Ruscom JONES  b 1746  ma Susannah  b 1779 Dutchess, NY  son Benjamin b abt 1810 Rensselaer, NY

Name:

Rercem Jones

[Roscum Jones] 

Home in 1800 (City, County, State):

Petersburg, Rensselaer, New York

Free White Persons - Males - Under 10:

2

Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25:

1

Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44:

1

Free White Persons - Females - Under 10:

2

Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44:

1

Number of Household Members Under 16:

4

Number of Household Members Over 25:

2

Number of Household Members:

7

Noel could be his first born child of Roscum but census implies Abel raised Noyes Jones. Following census records.

Have discussed this with many New York Descendants and Researchers. They think the parents died in the 1812 Flu Epidemic.  One is a Town Historian and the others have done much research.

Abel b 16 May 1743 Kent RI  d 1 July 1835 Rensselaer Co. NY 

Would love to nail this down, if you  have any further information I would love to be aware of it.

 I have seen the entry in the ledger of Noyes Jones birth by his father  Noel Jones and wife Susannah is listed or I would not have parents names of Noyes. 

I have much documentation on this family due to  Noel and Susannah disappearing?

Share data with many other lines of Teague and Rahamana Jones.  Very large family.

The two lines not shown are from Teague to Josiah  m Elizabeth Berry to Seth  m Priscilla Hamilton/Hamblin to Silas, Sr.

Love  You DAD and sorry I did not know this at the time of your death. I was looking just small tidbits shown as I dug. 

Catherine Moyer widow of Phillip Moyer Will & Family Stuff

Cleaning my files up and found.

Catherine Moyer's Will widow of Phillip Moyer and mother of Valentine Moyer.

Berks Co. Court House.

Was sent to me 20 years ago when looking for John's father Valentine Moyer.

I also got John Folk's Will from same office at another time.

I enjoy following the Foulkes/Foulks webpage on Facebook, It shows many variants of the surname.

Had thought of doing one for Moyers/ Myers but time is so limited and I need to clean this all up.


Yes, the Moyers/Myers married the Foulk/Folks to create our line.


I found another whole box of data on our children today. Roller skating and High School and Graduations, pictures and documents and Certificates etc.  Anxious to do the next box..

Vicki Porter's Adams boxes are next.  She is a Hoffman and other surname related. Her Dad was an instructor at Waynesburg College.   I only knew her and met her siblings family when she passed.
Those boxes will cover Greene Co. PA stuff.  She died in 1995.  Fast moving Brain Cancer found and gone in 10 days.

For all reading this :

HAVE A BLESSED MOTHER'S DAY AND LIFE.

Limping Along until Repairs Happen. Comparing Some JONES Files.

 We were blessed with Gary Brock's visit today.  Taking away a computer that I hope will move me forward until life changes.

 Update  Eye is still infected. Now on oral and eye drop antibiotics, hopefully this will be resolved by mid next week.

 Having to get seeds in ground so I  am getting more fresh greens. Love the fact we are getting light sprinkles off and on to keep our area more damp.  The tall green grass of a month ago is tall yellow and dry and it sorta terrifies me. NO Breaks near the roads, Areas not trimmed that should be for safety.

It was great to hear Gary and Fred talk about Navy life and the places they have both been and the things done.

Jones files we have some near matches like 3 rd generation. We have two new researchers that I think are going to join the group.

Ironic is that one is way south, but the picture fits into the family very very well for comparison.

I tried to put picture here but it not working.  Under the JONES DNA files on Facebook is a picture of a Jones ..

                    This is DON JONES son of Lamonte JONES... myself,  dau of Ray Dee Jones and Gerald O JONES, sons of Carl Fremont Jones brother of La Monte Jones sons of Calvin Jones of Nashua, IA.  son of Noyes and Susan Madison JONES,  descendant of Noel Jones and Susannah, descendants of Roscomb  and Susannah   son of Silas JONES SR and Susanna Sweet.

 Uncles Front yard: 2940 Washington St. Lemon Grove CA in the 1990's
YUP DAD did not think there were any Suzannes in the tree.