Sunday, April 22, 2018

Jones Blathering, tidbits here and there.

1 Jones Tidbits and confusion yes -no.

1.  about  1785  birth  near Albany ?  Noel Jones
     Supposed son of Ruscomb Jones ???  Need facts of some kind.

        Found Ruscomb Jones in 1840 census

2.  Noel Jones  Census 1810 with wife and son Noyes, Direct distant Grandfather. Noyes is under ten which concurs with Petersburg, Court Records.

3.  Not before nor after. to be found Noel and Susannah JONES -- Noyes Parents.

4.  Many Noel's born after 1810 to various Jones kin.

5.   Noyes Jones is sometimes spelt NOIS, NOYCE.  And maybe even NORRIS.
      A marriage record of a son claimed him as NORRIS JONE wife Susan Madison?
       This child was the last  born of Noyes and Susan and just before they headed to Illinois.

6.  Noyes  Jones and Susan are in Nunda, Ill when the boys enlisted in the Civil War.

7.  Unsure how many served, Have records for Calvin and William Harrison, still looking.

8.  One son Noel b 1835 Mass ??   This son did not come west with family. Story was he was killed in accident before the left NY.
   a .1850 census has him as 1837 birth, ( yes with family then.)

   b. Data found unknown whom this is:

Noel 1828 d 1914   Thankful Scriven?? IS this Noyes and Susan Madison Jones son? or a nephew or cousin?

 I know according to Mabel Hewitt's records some JONES ma SCRIVEN.  pages missing from report from Bennington Vt. Library.

9.  To confuse matters worse there is a Noel Jones who lived this region who went to Utica, NY with a son Noel b 1813. He worked as a shoe maker.  Born about 1785.  Found in Utica add in paper and Census. 

10.  He then took son and went to Allegheny Co. NY.  Only those 2 were listed on census.

11.   This Noel JONES fits time for birth but not for child or wife or the fact he had multi wives and 
was drugged at death and the current wife had him declared not stable at death but okay when changed WILL.  Recently I learned the Judge was her Uncle.  The daughter went to court to get it reversed and the Judge said no. HIs earlier children got nothing. The young young lady and baby got it all. I would think they should have been able to have the Judge removed and retried for interference.  Also I wonder if that child was his she was carrying due to his health situation.

His Dr even went to court to say this was wrong, Judge overruled.  

12.  My records only show Noel with Noyes and Susanah his wife in Petersburg Court Records and then 1810 census.  

Did they die from disease, War of 1812,  Can any one explain this misdirection of data.?
IS there a way to see if the courts granted this family in Western NY a re trial? I am finding very very scant records. Except that death mess and court hearing at FS records. 

13. Noyes Jones last son was born 9 Sept  1850 in Petersburg area, His name was Charles Edward.
he married a Betsey Bartlett in Ill or IA not found records yet.  His second marriage was 1905 to Susan Lantz.  He died 1916.   He was old enough to serve in Civil War, not found any records yet.

14.  Noyes and Susan's daughters had husbands that may have served. Need to check them out also.

Jennie b 1847 d 28 Feb 1874 m Fred APEL  

Arvilla  married two brothers Alfred and Addison JOHNSON.  I had full story on them before back updrive crashed.  When one brother died she married the other one.

Lucy  Loretta Jones  b 1 Jan 1847  d 2 June 1931 Monticello, Tama, IA  m William FULLER
Birth Year (Estimated)
Father's Name
Mother's Name
Spouse's Name
Certificate Number

Citing this Record
"Iowa, Death Records, 1921-1940," database with images, FamilySearch( : 31 October 2016), Susan in entry for Lucy Loretta Fuller, 02 Jun 1931, Monticello, Tama, Iowa, United States; citing certificate #5375, State Historical Society of Iowa, Des Moines; FamilySearch digital folder 

They had 4 girls.

Other Jones cousins do you have data to verify any of this besides the data I have.?  I have never heard that Henry George ie George Henry was married twice.  ????

Anyone find data on NOEL JONES b1835?

Did William Harrison Jones marry the day before they shipped out?   

Saturday, April 14, 2018

Wyoming is the Topic.. Scattered tidbits, photos, etc.

Being a major Facebook user,  it fills the gap from when we did the Golden Gate Forum and Joe's site afterwards.
 I was born in Wyoming, Yes, I am a Cowgirl.  Yes, I love horses and animals and the country.  I love the green trees, the rolling hills, the steep mountains and all that in between.

 If you want to learn a bit about Wyoming you may want to turn to Facebooks' pages on Wyoming through the Lens.

I retreat here when all else fails.  Sure it may be cold, and windy at times but the people are really down to earth real people in every town or city  having been in for over 70 years. It has been 2 1/2 years since last trip but one is going to come up par summer time.

Relating this state, to much of what Michigan has to offer.  It is not over run by people. You have open space and lots of beautiful things to see if you just open your eyes.  Yes, both get snow and wind and in summer more wind and heat and lakes and trees and arrrgh a few snakes here and there. Those I avoid with a passion. It has the Oregon Trail running through it. It has ghost towns, ranches, mini towns and lots of socially friendly people.  The Ranch I started on The Diamond Tail Ranch is still in existence and has turned partially into a ?Dude Ranch. I was last there in 1958 with my parents as part of my graduation present. Greybull, Wyoming.

This state holds many of my families relatives but probably not as many as Iowa or Pennsylvania does.  Which brings in Facebook even more.

I have been able to connect with family I have met before, meet people I know of but never met, seen faces to put on names, shared data amongst each other, expanded our family trees many times over with the terrific help of Facebook. 

Yes, I even found family on the Wyoming through the Lens page. The old story of leave no stone unturned can really be used on Facebook and it's many sites we can share.

While not going to put pictures from the pages here but take a bit of time, a cup of coffee or glass of water and set back and enjoy some of the most beautiful sites in America. 

There are many historical places to visit and learn about our history. Laramie and Laramie Peak my cousin took me up to see. What a site to see so far out across our country. It was like at Yellowstone and I could see into both Montana and Idaho standing in Wyoming.

Lots of Cattle/ Sheep battles were fought here early, tis sad that they could not see both could get along.  Our Indian ancestors had lived well in Wyoming and were moved into Montana and S. Dakota.  

A picture done by our  kin used to hang in the Hall in Cheyenne for the Governor.  Ancient prehistoric dinosaurs are constantly being found all the time.

It has some awesome rivers, the SNAKE being one. Old Forts, Laramie being put back to original state when our GGrandfather Sanford Hoffman was there for a bit. Dad punched cattle over that ground before the state reclaimed it. He gave us a good view of what it was like in the 30's etc compared to what we were seeing today. I think somewhere in the piles of pictures I have inherited there are some.

Do not forget Cheyenne Rodeo Days in July.  I have never been but Dad rode horses there as did my Uncle.

Tuesday, April 10, 2018

Scott Family from Wheatland, Wyo Region 1944

Ok, We are trying to name them all. I suspect boy on the end is Mom's little brother whom died later this year.  I am not sure Or his  G.Uncle Dan's boy.
Cousin Andrew Quintana shared this with us.
Harrison Scott,  another Scott,( is this John)  Uncle Roy Hoffman, Aunt Pat, ? ,  Grandad Cecil L Hoffman,  G.Uncle Dan?
 G. Uncle Harrison's wife Elizabeth with Elizabeth and brother Warden in front.
Girl next to Uncle Roy unsure of????
Aunt Marie with I think her  two older boys,  Hartley and Eldon  ??
Maxine is this your Mom, Aunt Mae Hoffman  or Fern Scott Hampton. (Ella)
Grandma Inez Mae Scott in front of Grandad .
The boy next to her may be Raymond. ??? or Ralph Scott, Which means>>>>>>
This appears to be a Scott Family Reunion or maybe came for Raymond's funeral. He died in 1944,

>>>>>> William Frank and Beatrice Francis should be down front.

Can any other SCOTT identify these people. I know MOM could have. Ralph Scott also. Hoping Mildred Scott Larsen can or Dick Hoffman ( William Richard).Please contact or

Sunday, April 8, 2018

Where Do You Fit In? Mine Below

Randy Seaver asked  at Saturday Night Genealogy Fun? Where do I or you fit in?

 Having attempted to resolve this issue, which I felt was very fascinating, the results are below.

 Here is the url for you to have fun and read his challenge.

My Results are: Where do you fit into 7 billion? Enter your date of birth to find out:

When you were born, you were the:  from my birthdate.

person alive on Earth

person to have lived since history began.

In 2018 the population is listed as: for me:  

7,510,341,000 population 2018

Lots more  people since my birth.  What about yours?

Sunday, March 25, 2018

Franklin Hoffman my Great Grandfather's Obit.

Frank Hoffman Was Well Liked And Respected

Posted 10 Sep 2014 by dailynews5

Centerville Daily Iowegion And Citizen – May 03, 1940 – Page 6

Frank Hoffman Was Well Liked And Respected

Moravia, Iowa . — Frank Hoffman, the seventy-nine-year-old Appanoose county pioneer who died out in Wheatland, Wyoming, Tuesday, was the son of Mr. and Mrs. Sanford Hoffman. He came to this country with his parents, from Pennsylvania , shortly after the close of the civil war.

  When young Frank was ready to set up a home of his own he wedded Elizabeth DuVall. That was fifty-eight years ago. Elizabeth was a sister of William DuVall, commonly known as “Bill”, and Robert DuVall, called “Bobby.” Both were well known in this locality.

  Elizabeth wah a cousin to Henry DuVall. And the thought of Henry starts a train of happy childhood memories.

  Henry, another Appanoose county pioneer will long be remembered by youngsters of that period for his generous hospitality in allowing them to ride beside him in the cab of his monstrous steam engine. For Henry owned a steam engine threshing outfit.

  The thrills that raced gloriously from tip to toe on those all-too-rare occasions, are experienced again in fancy. Hanging perilously onto the cab of that magic steam-driven machine as it puffed over the rutted, dusty roads or bumped along through the rough stubble ground in wheat fields, was an un-paralled adventure. Often was Henry matching speed with an approaching rain storm which threatened the harvest.

  The Frank Hoffmans lived on a farm about two miles east of Moravia, the farm that was later occupied by Robert DuVall. They were parents of three children: Grace, Robert and Lee. 

  The thrills that raced gloriously from tip to toe on those all-too-rare occasions, are experienced again in fancy. Hanging perilously onto the cab of that magic steam-driven machine as it puffed over the rutted, dusty roads or bumped along through the rough stubble ground in wheat fields, was an un-paralled adventure. Often was Henry matching speed with an approaching rain storm which threatened the harvest.

  The Frank Hoffmans lived on a farm about two miles east of Moravia, the farm that was later occupied by Robert DuVall. They were parents of three children: Grace, Robert and Lee. Grace became the wife of Dan Scott. They went to Wyoming several years ago where she passed away, at Wheatland, in 1937. Lee lives at Slater, Wyoming, and Robert's home is about five miles northwest of Moravia.

  Mrs. Hoffman died in 1904. Sixteen years later Mr. Hoffman went to Wyoming where he shared the home of his grandson , Frank Scott, in Wheatland.

  Father Sanford Hoffman was a very religious man. He was a member of the old Methodist church in Moravia. Back in those days ones religious ardor was measured some what by the length and fervor of the prayers offered at the midweek prayer meeting . Old timers recall Sanford Hoffman as a zealous Christian character in every respect.

  Frank Hoffman's uncle Hague was Moravia’s most popular pioneer doctor H.H. Hoffman M. D. Most all the mid-century native-born residents of this vicinity were ushered in to the world by this good physician.

  Frank Hoffman is remembered by old friends as a quiet, conservative citizen. A highly respected man who held on, to the last, to that which was good.

My Mother talked of this Grandfather often and with great respect and loved his personality.  I love the story of when Grandad Lee married as the best. GGrandpa Frank had a supper funny way with words and life.

Friday, March 23, 2018

Cecil Leroy Hoffman Data. Grandad I love you still.

 Having just opened up Grandad's keepsake album that Mom gave me, I found things I forgot
were in it.

 A report card from 1898, he had excellent grades.
Several notes from his teacher in school. Some regarding his writing while out of school, some regarding coming to visit his teacher with his brother Bob and sister Gracie. I suspect it was summer break.  She asked him to have Gracie write her also in one note.

Everything is so fragile.

Many little Rememberance cards from I suspect Sunday School classes.  1 letter so faded I could not read it well. 2 letters that talk about contacting the teacher and doing as she had requested.

I found a heart cut out of paper and a red thread through the  top center in the papers. I found homemade what I would call Valentine Cards, Xmas Cards, Greeting Cards or notes to him from  another teacher. The one valentine cut out and with red thread may have been given him by Grandma.  I wish when MOM got this from him she had labeled what and who.  There is no writing on the heart and it's like school writing paper and red thread.

The delicate notes have a picture taken from something, ( maybe a magazine, pasted to paper picture on back and delicate very delicate lace inserted around the edges of the square or rectangular notes.
Just pictures no writing on most of them.

Will have to rewrite the story of their marriage. It was quite an event. I did not see a copy of that from Mom but Grandad told the story so many times I have never forgotten it. With his blue eyes twinkling and a smile that was so expressive, he related the event to myself, Richard and Hartley.

Over the years it was repeated and the last time he told me was 1958 when I saw him for the last time.  He died in 1962. Wheatland, Wyo.   Grandma died before him in 1961.

I will try to get them filmed and present them for family to see soon.

Still have to rescue the painting of Grandma that was put out where it was weather damaged. Grandad paid to have the portrait made of her. He really liked it and she was always hiding it.

The letters all were written in Moravia, IA or near there. Other names were mentioned one said they were an Aunt and it was a name I had never heard before.

Cecil Leroy Hoffman,  my Dad said most called him Dutch or Lee.
b 9 May 1891 Moravia, IA
m 29 May 1912 Appanoose, IA
d 24 Oct 1962  Wheatland, Platte Co. Wyo.

Inez Mae Scott
born  6 Oct 1892 Taylor Township, IA
d 14 Nov. 1961 Wheatland, Platte Co. Wyo.

Buried in Wheatland Cemetery.

Some papers say Leroy Cecil Hoffman some the reverse.

Sunday, March 18, 2018

St Patrick's Day Thoughts

 Randy asked us to comment on St. Patrick's Day so I will.  Wondering what my younger siblings remember.

First, Randy Seaver you just told us your percentage of Irish.  The amount does not matter it is the having it that does..

 Irish is like Indian, what ever portion you have, you have.  Accept and go with it.  It can be fun.  

Mom's family had lots of Irish backgrounds in the family.  We almost always had Corn beef and cabbage, either at home or a relatives or friends place.

There was a pastry MOM  would get from the bakery sometimes to share, if the event was at our home.  I recall it being like a strudel.  
We often had green jello with fruit inside for dessert,  with whipping cream on top.  

Wear the green or get pinched and man that could hurt.  Since I wore a uniform for many years we would take green construction paper, make a shamrock and 
pin it on our uniform.  You just did not want it to come off or ouch.

Sometimes the girls would wear green ribbon in their hair.  Yes even the boys wore the shamrock on uniform sweater.  In High School, it took a lot of  ingenuity  for the boys 
to stay wearing something green.  Our uniforms were white blouse, shirt, navy blue sweater for both, and grey/black slacks  boys or grey pleated uniform skirt for girls.

Prior to the grey skirt we had a navy blue jumper we wore over the white blouse with navy blue sweater.  Boys did not change.

We always had Mass and learned information about St. Patrick and Ireland. We also at school,

So  if it fell on a school day had green coated sugar cookies and milk at break

A Catholic school near us had Green in their uniform they never had our troubles with wearing green. 

Dad and Mom played Irish songs on the record player and we all learned to sing many of those songs.  Of course our radio station played lots of Irish music back in that day.
"Danny Boy"'  was Mom's favorite. I do not know why but she loved that song. 

I like lots of Irish music and songs,  it seems we sang those songs for a month before and ever so often through out the year when a special event came about with family members
in the area.

Thanks for the memories your comment brought forward.

So what are your family memories of this sorta Holiday?

Thursday, March 8, 2018

Honoring Women Today........Some of my females.

  Spring is about to be sprung.  Here it comes.  Female Family that has impressed me during my life.

  Obviously my Mother Inez Mae Hoffman Jones dcd.  She was an interesting woman and cared for many people.  She had a heart but at times hid it from view. She lost babies and had 4 living children.  I was always worried she would pass before we grew up because of medical history for her.  She lived for almost 93 years so that was not a worry. She taught us or tried to : cook, sew, bake, milk cows, pull weeds, make a garden, can fruit and vegetables, meat and herbs. She could see a dress in the store and go home sketch it,  cut it out and make it with out modern patterns.  She could draw by hand some of the prettiest pansy pictures ever. I hope I still have one in the trunk. She also knit, crocheted but never could master tatting *which her mother did so well.
She taught 4-H classes and later in life worked at the Tomales High School Cafeteria. I remember she always voted. It was important to my parents to be active in making our country a great country.

 2nd was my Mother in Law, Louise Jipp Pentico.  She was a very warm caring person and had met many struggles and either conquered them or gracefully set them aside. She lived on a farm in Iowa until they sold and came to be near us in southern CA.  She had,  like my Mom run a tractor and plow and worked both indoor and out.  She carried hot water from the stove to the basement in a bucket to wash clothes. Fortunately I was able to convince the powers that be that they put hot water in their house. Because she never complained she did it.  Dad  was stunned and didn't even think of the risks  she  took doing this.  She  taught me things my Mom did not.  They were both so great.

3rd mmmmm It would be my Aunt Etta, Dad's sister and Aunt Bethel her baby sister. Both helped to keep me on track with life and living. They both always kept in touch and helped me over many maturing humps in my life.  I thank God for that every day.

4th  Aunt Ruth Mom's baby sister just a few years older than I.  I lived with them as a teen during summers and babysat and when I first moved away from home to find a job.  That was in Oregon and in Sunnyvale, CA as a young adult. Luckily I was able to keep in touch with her throughout life always.  Her life was hard after the major accident and was a reason I was with them to help her to get around as they did surgeries.

5th. Great Aunt's on both Dad and Mom's side.  They shared so much about my parents lives and how they lived and what they thought I could do to help my parents to succeed.

6th.  Aunt Doris Hoffman, my much beloved Uncle Dick's wife that I was able to learn and share times with after I was married and kept in touch with. They just did 72 years of marriage first of the week. He is a World War 11 Vet. He jumped from airplanes.

 7th  Aunt Jenny Senft Jones, my Uncles wife, who was my stand in behind any and all troubles like her sister in law's were. I have been so blessed with the family members we have.

8th.  My other Aunts, Great Aunts, & Great Grandmother whom I wrote to for several years before her death.

9th  Many of my female cousins were very close and alas are gone.  I was lucky to know 1st, 2nd and 3rd cousins in the family. We wrote letters and shared when visiting.

I think of Wilda and Maxine, Linda F, Jeannie Scott,  Betty Hampton, and so many others that all gave me thoughts to ponder as life moved through.

My Grandmothers's taught me to think twice before speaking especially Mom's.  Dad's said to always keep trying and going forward.  Her life I suspect was very hard due to many reasons, some of her own direct choosing. She shared much with me in later life while  living with us. My husband and children, learned a lot about life from her.

Sis, I could not forget,  Roberta was an young sister and when small we had so much fun and shared so much. After I started High School and she was in Jr HI school things were hard.  Then I moved away and maybe to soon for her but I went back. Today we get along great and are so glad we have each other to share things. We shared maternity clothes and our husbands were sailor mates.  At least stationed at the same place for a couple of times.  Her children were an extension of ours.

My two sister in laws also are often thought of because with out them I would not have the awesome nieces and nephews that we have.  It takes both parents to make such great family members.  Roberta Jones Thanks I love those boys, Peggy Jones Feil thanks I love your children also.

My two sister in laws, Mary Nelson and Shirley Majors. Shirley's dau's Linda and Janelle.

Now we address our daughters: Candy Ann and Billijo and daughter in laws, Peggy, Heather and Elizabeth.   The mother of Dan, Cindy she gave us our first grandchild. Thank You Cindy. Debra mother of Andrew, Thank You.  Elizabeth form Willkie and Kevin & being able to pull that family together as a family and keep it whole.  Peggy for our three grandchildren, Nate, Hannah and Alicia.

Candy whom gave us two grandsons Joseph and Stephan and 2 ggrandchildren. Thank You
BilliJo whom gave us a grandson that reminds us how life can be so fragile.  Thank You.

The raising of our children helped us to mature, to appreciate life and remember to give thanks and move forward.

It takes all of these things to make up whom we are.
It seems that I have always tried to take something away from each person I have been in contact with and filed it for remembrance.

How I wish I had gotten some more personal knowledge from  some of our female ancestresses.
Queen Margareth of Scotland, Rahamanha, Pocahontas. Some of the females that migrated on the Mayflower, also Mrs Christopher JONES Jr and others.
Some time I will write about the males.

Our background is varied and comes with many strong willed and courageous women.

I have one Great Aunt still alive wife of a Great Uncle deceased. Her line is from Hickock,  so I was told.

Susan Carol Jones Pentico 8 March 2018