Genealogy Compliments to Kathy Manuel

It may be Tombstone Tuesday but this morning I got this neat note in from one of our members and she said I could share it with you all. Kathy has been working on her genealogy for quite some time with some success and some brick walls. This morning she shares she is preparing for a trip to do a reunion. This is what she said with dates blanked out.

Hi Susi - I'm not going to be able to make it to the Lemon Grove
meetings this month. I'm working diligently on my family tree in prep
for the family reunion in Arkansas on XXXXXXXXXX. I've found a lot of
info and working at verifying the validity of it all. Even my sons,
daughters-in-law and grandkids are enjoying this - how
wonderful to know that interest in this continues down the line.

One daughter-in-law smiled as she told me "I can't be bothered with
the live people issues right now - I have dead people to look up!".
:-)

Have a great month!

Kathy

I think the daughter - in - law's comments are absolutely awesome. I hope you all agree.
She has also signed up for the seminar and I am going to ask her if her daughter - in- law may want to come.

Sept 11 event Bonita Library Bonita, CA Alfredo Pena

Come Join Us At These Events


Guest Speaker: Alfredo Pena, head genealogist,
CorGoMiUri.



Sept 11, 1-3 PM -- Bonita Library Conference Room, Bonita Rd.

"The Conquest of Mexico: Finding Your Ancestor Among the Conquistadors."
Description: "Myths and realities about the conquistadors; some of the families that descend from the them and what sources can be used to find a link to one or several of the conquistadors".

Oct 2, 2:30 - 3:30 PM -- Norman Park Senior Center, 270 F St. Chula Vista,

"Coming to the New World After the Conquest 1600-1900"
Description: "Not everybody arrived to the New World at the same time with the conquistadors. Some of the Spanish families went to Mexico after the conquest. Find out what are some of the books and other sources that can be used to find them."

Oct 27, 12:15 to 2:30 -- Chula Vista Library 4th and F St. Chula Vista

"Exodus: The Reasons for the Massive Immigration from Mexico to the U.S."
Description: "Political and economic events such as the Mexican
Revolution and the religious war against the government (Cristeros)
fueled a massive immigration from Mexico to the U.S."

A Name to Ponder, PENTICUFF

A Name to Ponder, Penticuff

Well, the Ydna is back, the story it tells is one of greater mystery than the lack of the
Ydna.
I spoke with Mary last night. It was her birthday. I gave her the interesting news.

We match with PENTICUFF in Kentucky in 1860. Now that is not a surprise because at one
time JOHN PENTICO was known as JOHN PENTICOFF or PENTICUFF. But he is first found in Jersey s
Shores, PA. 1830 census records. It states he is born in PA and so were, the then living
children and wife.

Now we have found her lineage back to Germany fairly early via her Great grandparents, to PA.
Yes it is documented very well. Thanks to books, documents and church and ship registers and
the Church in Germany.

But what I did not expect and I am sure non of the family expected was the lineage back ground
of the name, regionally.


I would love for others with the Pentico- Penticoff- Penticuff- Penticost-Benninghoff etc
spelling to contact me about potential YDNA tests to resolve this new development.
I would also love to learn the lineages of your surnames as back as far as you can go?

It has also been mentioned it may have been Pendegast. ?? What an interesting results we did
receive.

Blogs to Follow, Blogs to Share

BLOGS TO FOLLOW, BLOGS TO SHARE

Oh what blog do we want to follow and oh, what blog do we want to share?

It seems that genealogists everywhere have thoughts and ideas on this topic.

Do I have favorites yes, do my favorites change from time to time absolutely.

There are so many blogs coming on line steady it is hard to keep up with the new

thoughts and concepts.

So I said,"what type of blogs do I really enjoy?" I like informational, family and
technical blogs(now do not get over my head).

Maybe it comes from I like to read. I try to do a book every three days just to
keep the brain working.

My newest find was this blog. http://scottishemigration.blogspot.com/

One I always enjoy but do not visit enough is http://www.newberry.org/genealogy/news/


Areas we all neglect it seems is state library blogs and sites.

The state of Virginia has some of the best.

Treasures found on Thursday

Treasures Found on Thursday

Today I received a call from my cousin in WYO whom was on her way to Idaho. She said the
weather was awesome and has been most of summer. Envy here :>)

Seems her granddaughter now 26 has need of some family history information. I have not had
the pleasure of meeting her I think. But I do know her mother.

I shared with her the pictures that my MOM had found as negatives and we had developed last
fall. I will be sending her some copies. I also pointed her to this blog where some of them
are already posted.

Tonight Mom called and she has done it again she found a picture of my Dad prior to her
marriage to him with her little sister peaking out the screen door. I am glad her eye sight
is well enough she can see them and identify. At times she can not see well at all.

So I treasure my family connections and the data that we have all shared with each other
and other family members.

An Ode of English Plurals by???

An Ode of English Plurals

We'll begin with a box, and the plural is boxes,
But the plural of ox becomes oxen, not oxes.

One fowl is a goose, but two are called geese,
Yet the plural of moose should never be meese.

You may find a lone mouse or a nest full of mice,
Yet the plural of house is houses, not hice.

If the plural of man is always called men,
Why shouldn't the plural of pan be called pen?

If I speak of my foot and show you my feet,
And I give you a boot, would a pair be called beet?

If one is a tooth and a whole set are teeth,
Why shouldn't the plural of booth be called beeth?

Then one may be that, and three would be those,
Yet hat in the plural would never be hose,

And the plural of cat is cats, not cose.
We speak of a brother and also of brethren,

But though we say mother, we never say methren.
Then the masculine pronouns are he, his and him,

But imagine the feminine: she, shis and shim! !


Since we write so much when we blog I thought I would post this from Cousin Nancy. Someone really figured it out.

Monday's Madness beginning to Calm Sourcing and other items

Monday's Madness beginning to Calm Sourcing and other items


Hurray we had a great meeting and are able to move forward with the more ease. It seems now it is a waiting game for reply to letters and ideas presented to others.

We spent about 30 minutes talking about the Talk on 5 Generation Charts and other forms that was presented by Ruth Himan on Saturday. Comparing the two talks she has given both were great.

We all agreed we liked the way she explained and worked through the sourcing on the charts.
Sometimes it is the hands, on in person, up front approach, that works best. One is still having trouble making her chart off her FTM program.

Sometimes what sounds easy is not and when shown it is really simple. So after chart discussions we got down to business and covered 10 events for the Seminar. As stated before much now is waiting game.

We set the date for the taste testing of food for the seminar. Olive brought some bulletin's she had made and they looked great. She and Janice last week did up another group for us to choose for another activity at the seminar.

Gary and Barbara we missed you but hope to see you at the picnic.

I found my old Reunion program this morning and printed off my charts since the sourcing didn't follow over the information. And I need to bring John Scott's data into the line again
since it is well documented now. Yup, all the way back to about 1730 in Virginia.

Genealogy Busy Day

Attended meeting this A M across town, came back and attended the workshop event for 5 Generation Charts at the Library. Ruth had 9 people attend this meeting plus myself. It was loaded with many interesting questions and comments. The time flew fast and everyone learned more about charts, data and how to fill them out more efficiently. How to reference them to other areas in your research. Also how to find them in other areas of your research.


She stresses the daily journal and the logging of your genealogy research. She did a marvelous job since we had no way to use the projector. She did it all on a the chalk board. The need for more workshops was made very apparent by this group. I was glad Shirley was there to hear the comments on the things they need to learn in Computer classes. I am sure she will be busy with the topics for some time.

Most everyone was looking forward to the picnic and the use of their charts.

Rewriting of a Members Survey Comments welcome

Survey Members 2010 a work in progress by the LG group at a two hour meeting.

1. How many years have you been pursuing genealogy research?
2. How many years have you been a member of a Society? Ours?
3. How often do you do research work? Daily, weekly, monthly
4. What started you on the path of genealogy?

5. What areas of the USA do you have ancestry? Have you been to these areas
doing research?
6. In what other countries do you have ancestry? Have you been to them for research?
7. Have you done research at any of the counties/city libraries or Family History Center’s ?
8. What type of computer system do you use? Genealogy software?
9. How are your Internet skills for research?
10. Have you posted your research on the Internet or a family shared site?
11. What Free or Paid sites do you use?
12. How often do you go to the CVGS web site? Do you read the newsletter?
13. Do you read the CV Genealogy Cafe Blog?
14. Have you posted messages to Rootsweb/Ancestry, Genforum boards or lists?
15. What Genealogical magazines do you read?
16. What are your Genealogy Goals?


Most of the items were combined some were felt not pertinent by these 11 members

It was felt we should add what are your goals? How often do you site your Sources?
And a Interesting comment was, “What branch of my tree should I prune?”
It was felt that 15 should say read not subscribe to magazines :>)

It brought many a chuckle because they were very behind in the reading department.
We also changed some questions to be broader than before.
Most of these questions conform to the questions I was hoping to ask at the Seminar but not
all.
I felt asking about goals was a vital one we missed.

You can see that it leaves space for more questions I already added what are your Genealogy Goals. Ann , what where your topics?

Anyone out there got other good questions that we should maybe ask our members?

Answer here or email me at SusiCP@cox.net.

News in from Nancy Eshelman -- Pennsylvania State Archives

Nancy Eshelman writes for The Patriot News,

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2010/08/nancy_eshelman_pennsylvania_st.html

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/



This article is about the help the Archives need to continue to preserve our HIstory.

Monday's Madness is not so Mad

This morning my computer stayed on longer than of late. Why is that so interesting? Well, I can not read others blog posts and garner knowledge when it stops after about 30 minutes of being on line. Yes, I am returning it to the store tomorrow as things stand. But that is not the reason for the comments.

I was able to glide through many blog postings I have not had a chance to do in almost 3 weeks. I was thrilled with all the new thoughts, comments and concepts being posted out in the world of blogging.

Thomas M I found a great little post by you for beginning bloggers and we need that for our group to learn how to blog and so well stated. It flipped a bit fast but hopefully when I present this little site to our computer instructor they can resolve that issue and teach the group how to blog.

I read the tribute to Terry Thorton, read my Fence friends recent notes, Myrtles and Maven's and so many others I like to read through for learning where we are on our pages of life in genealogy and blogging.

I read on Facebook comments a while back about whether the Graveyard Rabbit program will continue. I did not find an answer to that question as I scurried about the system.

Arrgh I died again. But Grandson bringing his car to show us this am so computer store tomorrow.

Ruth's Chat on Charts and Forms

We had a nice small turnout and one new guest. We all learned something we probably had forgotten or never thought of it that way.

Ruth's witty charm and knowledge shown through the silly computer that was not cooperating. Finally she found what she was in need of but had covered it nicely with out the pictures.

It is amazing to me how we can fill our charts and forms and know what they are for but not really think about them as tools to
find the missing link.

She stated that a journal daily is a must to help you in research. It can be used like a diary in format. That journal is a form of sourcing your information. She said you write : called Aunt Helen showed number and about a specific letter. It receives a sourcing number for locating when doing further search.

She did present a chart I have never seen before I found it extremely informative and have to agree with Gary's comment adding that one more item to it makes it a very awesome chart. Resource Tracking Chart.

She talked about how when you fill in the blanks the empty spaces are the brick walls but the data between is your clues.
She spoke of how a census said living in a certain time frame as husband and wife, then the next time frame a widow remains.
This tells you (yes, I knew this) that he had passed. What it also tells you is the time frame of his passing.

She used many examples of the way she uses her charts, from a 4 generation to a 15 generation chart. She talked of her love of using a circle chart and showed us why she felt it was easier to use and understand for research. One the blank spaces pop out, two the relationship shows quicker within system when more than one family member marries another family member. This being if two sisters married in generation 7 and then in your generation 3 you learn that these missing women are siblings.

There was a chart presented that was color coded. The reason behind this chart was to show migration pattern of the families.
It was a five generation type chart. But in flow format and color coded to each surname and region.

I fell in love with the Resource Tracking chart she uses. That is so different from anything I have ever seen.

She talked about Family Group sheets showing family history. The knowledge of collateral lines can be pertinent when you run into a brick wall. She stated: Validation of Data Search, Collaboration with "cousins", Quick Reference Sheet. are the reasons for using this chart.

She talked about the numbering system on a 5 or 4 generation chart. There are 8 more charts needed if you fill out the full 5 Generation Chart form. Each male surname needs a separate chart. The males are always even numbers and the females are odd numbers.

The oddities in families brings the need to address the cousins marrying cousins, Uncles marrying niece, towns and counties that change names use of different charts and how the more effectively handle those situations.

She also addressed a Census Summary Data Chart. She talked about the results you can get from using this method for tracking females, narrowing of birth and death dates, members in family and migration of same.

She helped show some tips for the use of these charts at our picnic.

So come to the picnic or attend her next talk next week and learn all of this directly.

Stay tuned for it is hoped another topic brought up will be spread out before us by her in the not to far distant future.
Some of these charts she mastered doing her Grandma Camp but it was a really fun informative event.
More on that one chart at a later date. Stay tuned for more chatting.

Thanks are Sent to All who Helped

Greetings everyone, I can finally get a chance to thank you all for the participation in my Mother's Birthday Card party for her 90th birthday. O yes, it was the end of June but she was not able to chat with me about what she had received until very recently.

Mareen she was really thrilled to get that packet from the school children. She says they are hanging on the back of her
refrigerator. IT is a built in and back side like a bulletin board.

She goes through the cards people sent and thankfully many put whom they were on the cards so she knew if they were a Scott Cousin, Hoffman Cousin, Plants Cousin or friend of family etc.

She received one from a cousin she had not had contact with since she was young and and she was crying telling me how excited she was to read a note from him and his wife. She told me about her visit to see him one time when someone was ill.
Her Mothers's side of family ie Scott. Many cards brought back great memories.

She also ended up with a small reception of family (immediate) and close friends for about 3 hours. She says she wasn't able to speak to everyone because there seemed so many came. I bet she told them HI but didn't get to chat. She loves to chat. You just have to get her started. She is a wee quiet unless she knows you.

I really got my chatting from my Father he was always warm, friendly and caring in the community.

5 Generation Charts and other Forms, join Ruth

Ruth Himan will be doing a presentation on charts and forms zeroing in on the 5 Generation Charts for the Picnic and to have peoples registration completed within the society.

Come join Ruth Himan and learn more than you knew. She is fun and refreshing in presentations.


TIME 1:30 to 4:00 P M Bonita Library 4375 Bonita Rd. Bonita, CA 14 August.



Remember the picnic is at the Elks Lodge 25 August 2010,----- 10:30 to 3 P M

Follow Friday mmm I know who :>)

Yup it is Follow Friday and I am going to mention Ruth Himan's new blog. Non Genealogical sorta, metaphorical, tidbits on observation of life. Reflective yes. Might I get to know her better probably.

Here it is everyone .http://ruthtruthsandruthisms.blogspot.com/

Susi's Chat Seminar Followup, etc

Today I will be delivering the Scholarship papers and the request for student assistance to the High School, for the Family History Fair in October.

Last night there is a chance Virginia found her lost Robert D. It sure gave some good leads.

For those who do not come share time at the library your missing a great time to do research, have personalized assistance and
getting to know your fellow genealogists.

I also learned sad news regarding a family member whose job has been put on hold. He just started house payments so this is going to really hurt. Hopefully something good comes from this.

This morning I fed the birds and watched them gather and eat. I found three new species in the pack. Now to determine what they are. The birds are expanding in species as we feed and watch them eat and play. I also took a picture of one of my cactus which had a double bloom on it. Pulled weeds and adjusted plants and enjoyed the quiet time of the yard.


Yesterday I parked next to some Lantana that had grown into shrub shapes and I watched and photographed a group of birds eating and playing or yes it was their singing or chirping that made me aware of them. They were not 2 feet from my car window. I did not realize Lantana could grow up off the ground and make such an interesting hedge.


I may go back and set there again sometime.

Seminar Progress is Happening October 2, 2010

Seminar Happiness is coming about. It takes a lots of interchange of ideas and concepts to make it work.
A team makes it happen with the best of results.

Our society has some neat people to thank for all the effort put into what we have so far.

We took the survey from last year added it to our Program Chairperson's speakers and rounded up the events with
an Outreach program to find new members and share our knowledge with the community.

We have an additional place to present our activities to reach out into this large community. Down the road we hope to reach out farther to the other neighboring communities in our region. Learning that many people subscribe to Ancestry and are not members of our society finally helped them understand we are not reaching everyone we should.

We are in our third year of doing a Scholarship for the Chula Vista High School Seniors and if lucky we may get to expand it down the road.

One of the objectives of the Seminar is to reach out to everyone in the community area, to be aware we are now putting on presentations on the weekend and have people in the library on Wednesday evenings, 5:30 to 7:30 pm Civic Center Library.

We are a bit random with our Sunday Talks events due to scheduling conflicts within the system. We do generally have a couple of people in the Genealogy area on Sunday if no talk is presented to help those who may want to know what books we have, how we can help, what we offer to help others etc. This happens between 1;30 and 4 PM in the Genealogy section in the northwest corner of the library.

This coming Saturday our own Ruth HIman is going to be putting on great presentation regarding the Charts and Forms we use in genealogy and the focus will be on the 5 Generation Chart. Why? because it will be used at our picnic on 25 August.
Spin the Wheel win a prize using your 5 Generation Chart. The Prize being the knowledge of someone else that is in the same region as you doing research. Teaming up when doing research can open doors and redirect thoughts for what you may have missed. Gary has many surprises to share during this game. Come join the fun at the ELKS LODGE off Telegraph Canyon Rd.
Chula Vista. CA. Time is believed to be 11 to 2 but it may be different.

Must of us Genealogists do not share with others as we work even in the society it is hard to see it happening, though the Research group and the Computer group help to bring this knowledge to the fore front.

I remember giving an example at a talk at the Chula Vista Library and ended up with four new distant cousins we were nor aware of each others links. I remember joining the Computer group in San Diego County and learned they never talked about their surnames only their programs. I loved the program knowledge but hungered for the sharing of the genealogical names also.

One of our members asked is this really helpful. I can only say we have gone from 80 members to over a 110 and a new member tends to join at each event. We attempt to reach out and hopefully make them feel welcome and important for they are both. Even better is the new members are stepping up and adding their thoughts and mixing the pot so we are becoming even better.

I am sure that almost everyone if not everyone in the society can do the same thing if they just think about their talents and share them with others. You may be able to talk on the phone, write a review of a talk you attended, share some special
tip you have learned doing your own research, just reach out and say yes I can help you for an hour on this day.

Any of these would bring great joy to our society members attempting to make it a better place.

We would love to have someone volunteer to come to the library on Sunday afternoons for an hour or two. You will be amazed at how much you can scan while waiting for interaction with others. I have scanned through 15 new books I have not had time to look at otherwise. I have helped sign up new members and have leads for several other potential members down the road.

Need help with Genealogy, It is like a one on one time if no one else comes in. Thanks to John, Dearl, Marna, Barbara, Phyllis, Virginia and Shirley and Gary for filling in these hours. Surely while the sun is up one can come down for an hour and give a hand. Come winter many do not want out at night or late. The same happens for Wednesday evenings, from 5:30 PM to 7:30 PM, Virginia and Phyllis and I, have been able to help potential members and help each other.

The hopes was two people could do a month and then someone else could do a month. This is either 2 Sunday's or 2 Wednesday evenings. If not maybe just one a month, everyone has different thoughts on research and it is a way to
learn each others ideas on Brick Walls. It seems I always remember something different an hour later but do not see that person for a period of time to share with them. I love an email, or phone number for contact. One never knows when you may run across the information one is seeking.


So the Seminar is progressing and the plans are rolling along with great anticipation. Come join us and learn what we can do to
help you and you to help us. tee heee heeee. :>)

Come listen to Ruth Himan at the Bonita Library this Saturday talk about these Charts and how to make the most out of them in your research, highlighting the 5 Generation Chart. August 14. 1:30 to 4 PM


Two great presenters for the Seminar on October 2 from 9 to 4:30. Jean Wilcox Hibben and Alfred Pena.