Sunday, December 30, 2018

Calvin Fay JONES and wife Hannah Julian Young JONES

Calvin Fay Jones and Hannah Julian Young Jones are the parents of these below listed children.

  Nora  m Iver Jepsen

  George  m Belle Fox

  Alva  m Zelia August Noble

  Walter E  m Elizabeth Spooner

   LaMonte  E m Lulu May Belle Torrey

   Carl Fremont  m Victoria Mae Foulk (Ida)* my grandparents






Calvin's father was Noyes Jones and Susan Madison Jones from Petersburg. Renssaeler,  N. Y..

Henry George Jones,   --- Carolin Forbes---- Charles Jones and others are descendants.

Noel Jones   ??? supposedly died in NY pre coming west.

William Harrison  died CW serving with brother Calvin Fay Stone River National Park, TENN

Arvilla Jones m both Johnson boys Addison and Alfred.

Calvin Fay  (more above) my line

Jennie  married Fred Apel.

Lucy Loretta Jones  m William Fuller   5 known girls

Charles E b 1850  NY d 1916 Waterloo, Ia m Betsey Bartlett.   Dad knew some of these people.*
     *Fanny E m William Drew moved Wheatland Wyo.
        Willliam N.
            Calvin Jay

 I spoke to Fanny's grandaughter on the phone some years back she was in Rifle Co. Dad knew the family of Fanny and Bill Drew.

If you can help me to fill in the blanks would appreciate it.  This is just the bones.




Wednesday, December 26, 2018

Carl Fremont Jones and his Obits







Carl Fremont Jones Grandad Casey Jones was my father Ray Dee Jones Sr's.  father.



Sunday, December 2, 2018

Sunday, November 25, 2018

Josian Jones






Anyone have data on Josian JONES. I read an tidbit of this person in the NRHGS Quarterly.
They are mentioned with Capt. Christopher JONES.  ...

This years fall Quarterly.  Now looking for the previous reference that this article refers you to.

I think I have the previous years quarterlies also.


Saturday, November 10, 2018

Hoffman Currier and Ives Document.

Hope  someone has found this.. May have gone to a Goodwill type store in Petaluma,  CA 

Thursday, October 11, 2018

Something I found. DAD's Birth Certificate.



 I remember when he had to get this because of the new job he was starting at Hunt & Behrens Feed Mill, in Petaluma, CA.. He retired from there many years later.

Sunday, September 30, 2018

The Young Hoffman's of Yore.



Aunt Ruth Feil, she is Ken, and Jerry and LInda's MOM

neighbor friend next

William Uncle Dick  father of Larry Hoffman wife Aunt Doris

Dorothy Inez Jones my Mom as a youth

So you all in Iowa and Pa and Oh. Compare pictures..

Wonder if Jacob Huffman was a look alike as a youth as much as he was as an adult.

Jacob and Uncle Dick now both gone. As adults, they dressed the same, sounded the same and
were so much a like in looks.  Wish they had gotten to meet each other.

Jacob was, Eva Patterson's brother, Kate Santee's brother also.

There were others that matched the faces of Wyoming in PA amazed how much
kin a few generations down looked so very much alike.

Friday, September 28, 2018

Birthday Times Abound.



Today was our Grandson, Stephan's birthday.
Tomorrow is his daughter's.
We think it is very cool.

Fred was born 27 March.
Ed was born 28 March
Alicia was born on 29 March
Noyes Jones was born 21 Mar
Susan his wife 24 March

We married on 5 July
my Great Grandfather Calvin Jones and wife
Hannah Young were married on same date.

I have many more interesting close connections.

My Great Grandmom Margaret Mae EASTMAN Foulk
born 6 Oct IA
our grandson Joseph
born 9 October.
Grandad Carl Jones was born
10 October




Monday, September 17, 2018

Mixed Emotions and Times

 Greetings all,  having been taught that Going Home to God is a happy time. I still find the death of loved ones a very hard pill (?) to digest.

Having at this point lost both my  parents and hubby's parents, it should be easier.  No our world has us all in a turmoil.  We put seriously injured pets to sleep. We can not put seriously terminal humans at rest. I do not mean non terminal but the very terminal that pain meds doesn't even help.

Major religious emotion.  Does God cause it or the Devil?

Any way this past week has been a heavy one.  I lost a cousin on Dad's side a Foulk descendant. So sorry to have him gone. We lost a cousin of our grandchildrens' family. Someone I wrote to often.
We lost my last living relative of the generation above me. William Richard Hoffman,

Uncle Dick was a very special human to me and my siblings. A World War  11 Paratrooper amongst other things. He was a husband and a father and grandfather and cousin & Uncle to many of our kin in Iowa, Colorado, Nebraska, California, Nevada, Washington, AZ, Utah, Wyoming, Maryland and Florida and Carolina's.  For some of these he was a Great or Great Great Uncle.  Yes, he had medals and badges from the war. I remember him showing them to family one year.
O yes, he loved to fish and hunt when he was strong enough to do it. His last wish to me was to go fishing one more time this last June.

Do  you write something about your Aunt's and Uncles in your files for their tree information.?
Do you have a few pictures of them and their family?

 Often wonder what other members had of  Great Grandpa Frank Hoffman's life.  A great story, Mom shared one as did her siblings agreed with her.

 Uncle Dick's Grandfather was a man of many facets, he loved to  tease yet was serious when needed.  It is these little tidbits that make him more alive and then we can see traits of various ancestors if we have the tidbits. It makes it  so much more fun.

Give it a try.

God Bless All whom lost Family and Friends.

Monday, September 10, 2018

In Memory of William Richard Hoffman, our Uncle.

 My mother had several siblings. She shared many great stories about her family and life.
Many were so hysterical and fun to have lived. I think that is why she shared them with us and others so often.

I have no story about swinging from the rafters and dropping into the dishpan of water which Aunt Marie did when when a siblings was  born.  I think it was Aunt Ruth.  Some where I may have it written or Mom may have but we always laughed when the story was told.

We cried when she mentioned her baby brother that fell off a couch and ultimately died many years later from the injury he suffered. He was Raymond and she spent a lot of time helping him.

The tomato fight she had with Marie when a certain young man came to call on a Hoffman girl.
 That must have been quite a mess.

Our Uncle helped to share some  of these stories over the years.

 I am hoping cousin Ken Feil can share the story Uncle shared when we last visited for Richard Hoffman's Rememberance  2014. Uncle Roy's boy.

Aunt Doris and Uncle Dick have always had a close connection to my family.  They visited Mom's and we would drive home so the children could know them a bit. They came here one trip.

Alan graced their table and ate some awesome chicken dumplings she had made when we left Lincoln, NE. from his competition in Roller Skating Nationals. I was never able to replicate them for him.

Uncle loved to fish and  once in  awhile hunt game when young.

I remember a trip when we came into Grandpa's farm and they all grabbed fishing poles and went fishing for fresh trout for breakfast that morning. Of course they were there, the men went fishing and the ladies, cooked and baked and prepared for their return.  We arrived about 4:30 in the morning. I remember setting the table after expanding it and doing as Grandma Hoffman asked.  Mom's dog was still alive and laying by the side door. Her dog from when young. He was like 18 yeas she said. Mom was thrilled.

My baby brother loves trout like that the same way.

 Uncle so wanted to go fishing one more time. But it was  his turn to go home, so he can fish more there with less discomfort and have fun.

I will miss our often phone calls but will share time with Aunt Doris. She makes some wicked Chokecherry Jams and Jellies. I used to make it less thick and use for syrup over pancakes. She is an excellent cook and homemaker.

He served during the war for our Country and was a Veteran also. Rest in Peace Uncle Dick.

Tuesday, September 4, 2018

Danette Janice Mielak, Cousin Shirley Becker's Daughter.

     At the end of July, a dear cousin's daughter went to live with the Lord.  Her battle with Cancer was done.  She was greeted by many family members that have gone before including her husband and other family members.

     I first met her at work many years ago, not knowing she was my friends daughter,  I met her Mother when we moved back from Hawaii  1970 and lived near our same church of worship and we worked Altar Society together.  Later Shirley  joined the Genealogical Society which I was a part of.

     Even later we learned we shared many family connections and many of them way back to Mayflower time period and before.

     Her children then invited me  to a special birthday party for my friend Shirley Becker and I met the bulk of  Shirley and Danette's family.  Learned a son had been my repair man and was not aware of connection.   The world keeps shrinking.


     Danette was instrumental in helping a one of our family members and we were excited to learn she would be watchful of them.

     Danette was a loving mother and a neat friend.  We hated to learn she was having serious health issues then to learn the of the struggles that were to be, broke our heart.  Not wanting to loose her but not wanting her to suffer in such discomfort was so hard.

     She was born 9 September 1958.  the year I graduated High School.  She had a great laugh and good sense of humor.  She weathered through many turmoils and tribulations with always a caring heart and soul.

     The Lord took her 30 July 2018.  Her body no longer under attack and Jesus to hold her in his arms.  

      Danette Janice Mielak, we miss you, we love you. Family you are all in our hearts and prayers.
Remember the good times and hopefully the sad ones will fade almost away.   May God Bless You Danette and all your Family members.

Sunday, September 2, 2018

Madison,, Mattison, Ancestors. Vermont - NY

Madison,, Mattison, Ancestors, Vermont, New York and out West.

Well someone asked a question and finding some of the answers had been found, sleuthing was done.

Results are very mixed.  Possibly someone in Bennington, Vermont will have a better handle on the data that was found.

Susan Madison b 24 Mar 1818 VT  d 13 Feb 1881 Chickasaw Co. IA.
She married Noyes, -- NOIS or NOYCE ---- JONES  about 1832 Mount Holyoke, MASS????

She had 5 boys and 3 girls living.

Paper trail says:  John RIchardson Mattison is father and mother is  Elizabeth ? Unkown.

He was born in Dorset, Bennington Co. VT and died 12 May 1851 in Lapeer Co. Michigan. town of Almont.
'
His father was Rev War Samuel Mattison 11 and Hannah Richardson .



Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files, 1800-1900

Name
Samuel Matteson
Pension Year
1833
Application State
New York
Applicant Designation
Widow's Pension Application File
Second Applicant Name
Hannah Matteson
Second Applicant Pension Year
1848
Second Applicant Application State
New York
Second Applicant Designation
Bounty-Land-Warrant Application File
Archive Publication Number
M804
Archive Roll Number
1653
Total Pages in Packet

60
 WOW lots.

Samuel Matteson
Gender
Male
Military Date
Oct 1780
Military Place
Vermont, USA
State or Army Served
Vermont
Regiment
Alarm

# 50981  



His father:
Capt Samuel Mattison/Madison 1725-1777 Bennington VT wife Clarrisa.

Now this is what is in front of me.

The John Mattison in VT was born and only 15 when Susan was born so could not be Father.
Well maybe but nothing else fits at this point.

Comments, shares, and Information appreciated.

This is more than ever found before so ?????  SusiCP1@gmail.com


Saturday, August 18, 2018

SWEET 's and their Wives.



Going to post a few tidbits on the SWEET lineage.    I did some work on it and a cousin has done much, much more.

Robert Isaac SWEET m Johanna RICHARDSON, obviously in ENGLAND and died there.
His birth was 1552 Walford Forest, Greater London, England.  Death Greater London England
.

son John ( I am sure there were others but not done any heavy work yet.)

John b 1579 Modbury, Devonshire, England d 1637 Salem, Plymouth Colony, Mass.

Wife was Mary Westcott HOLLIMAN b 1681 England.

My note I acquired leaves my confused. (Mary was a Holliman after death and a remarriage new name.  Sweet , Timothy1st then Holliman then Sweet, John . 1619 Middlesex England married??

usnational marriage records Ancestry.)

I gather this to mean she was either a Westcott or a Timothy before marriage then Holliman  after his death then SWEET.

John SWEET JR b 1620, Modbury, Devon, England   d 1677 Salem, Mass.
wife Elizabeth JEFFREYS b 1629 Warwick, Kent, R I  d 18 Sept 1684 Warwick Kent RI, 
mar RI.  

Son Richard SWEET SR (Pastor)  4 Nov 1653 Warwick, Kent, RI m 1687 Prudence Island, Newport, RI
d 10 Mar1744 East Greenwich, Kent Co. RI.  

Wife

Priscilla CARPENTER   b 24 July 1661 Rehoboth, Bristol, Mass,  
D 9 June 1774 East Greenwich, Kent, Rhode Island.

her father appears to be William CARPENTER and Mariam. 

She was 2nd wife  

1st wife was Mehitable Larkin 

Would love to learn more about the CARPENTER line since I have another CARPENTER in 
southwest PA.  Also more clarification on the SWEET missing links.

I also have no data on Jeffreys line beside Elizabeth.  Thanks

SusiCP1@gmail.com.



Tuesday, August 14, 2018

JONES, NICKERSON CROWELL etc





Thank you for posting this Stone Marker....

Wondering whom else is on this list I have not observed yet.
Teague and Rahamana  had Ruhamana Jones whom married Joseph Nickerson
Teague and Rahamana had Elizabeth whom married Crowell.  I have to verify but believe it was Thomas Crowell..

Suspect the PHILLIPS and the Hamilton are two more.  I have not worked those lines back that far yet.

Josiah Jones m 28 Nov 1677 Elizabeth Berry, Yarmouth Mass. Sourced Parents Richard and Alice Berry.

son
Seth m Priscilla Hamilton , her father  ? Hamilton mother Elizabeth Wildes 1658-1718.

R-M269 Haplogroup..  I see when you go higher it changes but still same family.


Letter 5-21-2012 stated. He is buried in Southwark in St. Mary's Church Rotherhithe. from Veronica Alden.

Confirming  Jr. Christopher's sister was related to Robert Alden.

I am going to book me a trip to England since I have been invited. it may take a few years for money but now that I found that letter confirming things again do not want to loose.   They also stated he died  in 1624. Pneumonia .

Christopher's first wife was Sarah TWITT 1571-1603..  Thank you, thank you England.


Christopher's father Was Christopher Jones Sr. wife was Sybil.  under notes I have 1548-1570  so may be birth and death for her.  Still doing research.





Saturday, August 11, 2018

Some Very Early New England Families We Claim AUG 2018

Some Surnames in my Tree Susan Jones Pentico as of 2018 August 7

Capt Mathew Fuller to
Lt. Samuel Fuller to
Samuel FULLER Jr1676-1716  MA=CT  wife  Elizabeth Thatcher 1672-1729 MA= CT

Mary dau m Joseph Tracy SR    CT.
His mother was Sarah Minor

Lt Hezekiah Tracy m Eunice Rood1746=1837 CT to VT hers CT to VT 1750=1808

Lydia Tracy  b1779   VT. m Rufus TROWBRIDGE b 1773 Maine

His father was Keeler Trowbridge and w Hannah Lovely  Need help with her.
M 1770 New Fairfield CT.

Caleb Trowbridge  1706-1759  Ct. father and wife Jemima Keeler 1713-1759  CT.

His father was Deacon T James Trowbridge 1664-  and Mary Beldon(Belding)1677-1737.

Her parents were Ralph Keeler and Jemima   ,
His father was Ralph KEELER and Grace Lindall

Rufus Trowbridge 1773 -1822 ME –VT
Lydia b 1779- 1856 VT. (?? Birth date in ?)

Prosper Trowbridge 1808  1850 VT-NY
Wife Margaret SHARPE  by NY
Her father was John Sharpe

Daughter Lydia Trowbridge  1841=1900 NY + IA
M 28 Oct 1860 Blackhawk Co. IA.

George Herbert  EASTMAN 1832 b  CT – 1910 IA
Parents Abijah Stoddard EASTMAN 1778-1852
Wife Esther THOMAS  ( interesting side bar)

Father Vespasion EASTMAN 1754- Ct to 1828 NY
Wife Eunice STODDARD minimal data
Her father Abijah STODDARD 1718=1776

                        SOURCE NOTES: Listed in the 1966 DAR Pat
                        !Abijah was killed in Rev. War at Crown

                        Abijah & his brother Eliakim married sister

                        !SOURCES: 1. Ancestral File 2. 1997 Ord
                        This information is as accurate as I kn
                        PARENTS: Rev. Anthony & Mary (Sherman) S
                        Abijah was a Pvt. in Capt. Oliver Parma


His father was Rev Anthony STODDARD 1678-1780 Ct.
Wife Mary Sherman 1691-1720

 Vespasion Eastman and Eunice Stoddard  had Abijah Stoddard

EASTMAN Data and kin known

John Eastman 1579  England
Son Roger 4 Ap 1610   -1694  m Sarah Smith 1632=1639( SHE CAN NOT BE MOTHER of

 Joseph if he born 8 Nov 1650 d 4 April 1692  wife Mary Tilton 8 Feb 1642
Father Peter Tilton 1620-1698-Elizabeth Frary 1620-1692
Son
Peter EASTMAN

Peters’ father William Tilton 1585_  Ursula Pycroft

Peter EASTMAN b 20Jan 1684  d 1764  
Married Mehitable ROOT
Her parents Hezekiah ROOT and Mehitiable FRAIRY ( are the ladies siblings?)

Thomas ROOTE 1604-1694 and Elizabeth,  ?– 1691
His father was John ROOTE 24 June 1576  d 1640
Wife Mary Ann Russell

Mehitable FRAIRY da of Sampson FRAiRY 1642-1704 and Mary DANIELS

His father was John Frairy and Prudence Townsend

Her parents Robert Daniels and Elizabeth Morse.

Margaret Mae EASTMAN ** da of G H EASTMAN and  Lydia Trowbridge

marries Harvey Edward FOULK b 1867 Ill and d  {?} not proven
married 19 Oct 1892 Blackhawk Co. IA
**I personally knew this ggrandmother we exchanged letters for at least 9 years.She died Jan of the year I graduated  High School. 23 Jan 1958. Washburn, IOWA.
Thanks USN for loosing all my letters and pictures she shared. Still hurts 40 years later.


Pete Cooper,  I forgot to mark all the military will get back to you this is about half of all of them for Early America.

Friday, August 10, 2018

Henry Huffman Will Jan 1812 Greene Co. PA, w Catrouch FRY

 Henry Huffman whom deceased sometime between Dec 1811 and mid Jan 1812 when Will is used, had wife Catrouche, Catherine Fry/Frye.  

Having lots of information on this person, some must be correct some may be correct and very little is solidly proven.

Is she the Indian that Grandad could not remember the name of in the picture? When small Grandad could name all those faces but MOM did not let him write in the book. SO SAD in 1958 she sat him down and we had a special pencil and she filled in as many names as he could still remember.

He just called her his Grandma GreatGreatGreat and could not remember how many greats.

IS there anyone  out there with pictures of this line of Fry's in Greene Co. PA area/region, early?

WE have Fry's including Col Joshua Fry that were in this area about same time as our other lines.
That was reason for the FRY post but no one responded.

Names such as Abraham, Phillipus, Benjamin, are in various notes and files.

 Lose Ends::  Jacob Frey 1726-1770 and Susanna Sophia Frey 1724-1805
 son Abraham
Abraham Fry 3  Aug 1749 USA d 22 Nov 1789 Berkeley Co. VA  wife Elizabeth Winters 1750-1780 Abraham was married to elizabeth Winters that is part of the writeup about Peter

Elizabeth Winters had two sons and two daughters with Abraham FRY between 1765 and 1787.

Abraham FRY

1750–1789


Birth BEF 1750

Death BEF 1789 • Berklely, Virginia, United States

Notes I have under her are : possibly Peter Fry 1779  to 1870 and Susannah Huffman 1783- 1868  Hide family on ancestry.

Data saved on Catherine/Catrouch file

data on My Heritage,, b 1765 Greene Co. PA?? parent Phillipus Frye and Hannah Frye b Funk
sister Julianne and 3 others. Frederick  Loughman and henry Huffman SR.  Abraham Sarah Nancy phillip Jarob joseph Henry Joseph,and Rezin.
says Abraham Frye was gfather tree by Jan?

Lloyd Roupe found me this:

Subject: Abraham Fry

Hi Susi:
I found the Deed in Romney, the County Seat of Hampshire County, however, those Counties changed into other Counties during the late 1700's Time Period. Here is what I have in my Notes.
See Deed Book 11, page 370, Hampshire County, Virginia Court House Record for a list of Abraham Fry’s children ( late of Berkeley County, Virginia, decd bef 1798 ). Abraham had land on the "Waters of Cacapon". Hope this Helps. Lloyd

Will                                    1543      Nov  18  1853  Loughman                   Frederick                           Joseph Dunn et al                                 3   141                

1850 census for Loughman

an old link went to Geni.com no longer working.

I also received a picture of Abraham's home from someone of the Greene Co. webpage.

There appears like normal to have more than one intersecting line for these families?


Appreciate help and feedback.  SusiCP@cox.net





Thursday, August 9, 2018

Colonel Joshua Fry is Potentially Ancestor of our FRY's.

Colonel Joshua Fry is Potentially Ancestor of our FRY's.


Many years ago in the 1980's and early 1990's. I did a lot of research on the Joshua Fry mentioned.
At that time I only had a Catrouch/Catherine Fry for comparing.   Born abt 1770 in VA. died about 1845 in Greene Co. PA. Lots of stories but none confirmed yet. We have partial list of her children with Henry Huffman dcd  Dec 1811 Jan 1812 when Will Read. I have not found his burial place but believe I have to go out across a field of unknown ownership and watch along the side of a creek of old to locate if it ever  could be done.

Since that time, I have found various data that implies 3 different men as her Father.  I have never found an Obituary or Death Notice for this woman. I have looked from Berkeley,VA  to Washington Co. Pa. including Fayette and Greene Co. PA.  Was seriously thinking of adding SE Ohio east of the Ohio River.   Many crazy tales have been shared on the history of this person.

Now I wish my brain could have recalled a couple things I read on Col Joshua Fry's spouse. No I do not add potential names to my tree,  Used to  think a  working tree and a for public to see tree would help but after 45+ years not going there now.

Colonel Joshua Fry died 31 May 1754 on Will's Creek, Ft. Cumberland on the Potomac River.
   " He  was a man of so clear a mind, so mild
      a temper,  and so good a heart that he never failed to
      enjoy the love  and esteem of all who knew or  were

      connected with him,  and he  was universally lamented."

 " Col.  Fry was buried near Fort  Cumberland, near
 Will's Creek, on May 31, 1754."
 Washington  and the army attended the funeral ;
  and on a large  oak tree, which now stands as a tomb
  and a monument to his memory, Washington cut the
 following inscription, which can be read to this  day :
 " Under this  oak lies the body of the good, the
 just and noble FRY.
."
 Col.  Fry left five children, viz :
 1. John, born May 7, 1737.
 2. Henry, born  October 19, 1738.
 3. Martha, born May 18, 1740. -
 4.  William, born Feb. 6, 1743, died July 1, 1760.
 5. Margaret, born May 15, 1744.
 Mrs.  Margaret Fry, wife of Col.  Joshua Fry, died
August 20, 1772.

He implemented the "Treaty of Logstown, an Indian Village."  just south of Pittsburg. 18 miles.

I have only received this recent information, since I read it so many years ago, I could not conceive attempting to say what I had read then.

But other Fry members have found more information and are sharing  so we may resolve this issue in a few years I hope.  

 If there are other Fry's looking do not hesitate to reach out to Helen S Durbin or I to share and garner  more information.  We are both on Facebook  under Greene Connections for Greene Co. PA besides replying here.  Thanks SusiCP@cox.net

Tuesday, August 7, 2018

Lots of Data being Evaluated on Huffman/Hoffman files.

  Evaluation of Huffman/ Hoffman Data

Data found in binders and folders by both Susi  Pentico and Helen Durbin and others are being carefully evaluated for information not known.

Hoping the Huffman/Hoffman  DNA data that is coming from cousins and nephew may help us more.

We both have researched this line for many, many years. Also many cousins with us and gone before us, helped and shared.

Helen is updating the web page as she goes.  Many of the sources the site holder lost and has to be attached again.  Every thing at one time was sourced.  You can see the massive effort to be taken to resource it.

There is one glaring error on many's account.  Having proven that situation in 1995 or 96.
Using Land Deed,  Sale of Deed, Transfer of Deed and Virginia Land Records and Laws it was proven.

Many have lots of great information, it will take all of us to resolve some issues.
That frightens me since society today only face value attempts to get along.  But we are Hoffman/Huffman's and after years of work we all, at least chat and semi agree. WHOOOOEEE.


These are the siblings of  Franklin L. Hoffman and Samantha A DuVall.

Here is pictures of: bro. Hague Hoffman in Sacramento,CA.  (Before he started Medical School in Ohio.)

Mother: Rachel Plants Hoffman,   bro. Harvey Hoffman (dcd before marriage), sister Mary Hoffman Fabor.
and  will show pic of dcd Priscilla Jane and Jarvis Leroy,  wife Melissa Stoops, and Oliena, m James Hampton  and Elizabeth dcd before children, later..





Enjoy, hoping family shares data also.

Tuesday, July 24, 2018

Franklin Marion Hoffman Greene Co. PA--- IA



*Franklin Marion HOFFMAN b 26 June 1860 Greene Co. PA
   Father Sanford Hoffman  24 Nov 1834 Greene Co. PA  Civil War Vet. proven
   Mother Rachel Plants(z)   25 Oct 1836  Greene Co. PA

      *Grandfather Henry b  29 Oct 1803 Greene Co. PA  d 15 Sept 1879 Aleppo, Greene Co. PA
      Grandmother  Elizabeth Higgins  b 16 May 1809 Greene Co. PA  d 3 Feb 1877 Aleppo, PA.

      **His Grandfather has data under Hoffman/Huffman.  His Great Grandfather is same for name.
           *** GG Henry Huffman/Hoffman  b abt 1740 d 1812. Had previous wife. REV WAR Vet.
                  GG Catrouch Fry/e  abt 1770 VA  d abt 1845 Greene Co. PA ?

Henry b 1803 moved the name to Hoffman after the children going to school learned there was no HUFFMAN in Germany at that time.  The name has moved back and forth many times thanks probably due the brogue when speaking in early times. I have copy of letter with the data of his changing it. He also was tired of walking all over to deliver male to the other family members named the same. (chuckling)

Franklin being the oldest child, ( his older  sis died as infant) herded the cattle behind the wagon when they came west he was about 13-4 years of age.  His younger brother helped and he also had a dog to help him.  The younger children herded the hens and other animals. (in his letter)

Wish I had more letters to learn more of their trip west to Iowa. No idea whom in family got the other letters except Margery Little in Chico, CA whom lived in Oakland CA after coming from Iowa west.
She has lots of information I was so hoping to get back into learning more with her information.
I would love to find her brother and her nephews that were from Chico, Ca area. 2 nephews were CA Highway Patrol. Her brother was a large farm owner in Chico.CA.   Did not find data in Moms' files but I missed a box when we cleared it went the other way and suspect much data needed was in that box.  So any of you retired CHP that knew the Little boys, give them a shout out. Or any of you Chico, Ca residents that new Mr. Little or his sis, Margery I would love to hear from you.


***Henry was born abt 1740 in Maryland/VA as near as I can learn.
His brother swapped a gun for land with him.  He had to be 18 to accept the land. Using date on Deed he could not have been born later.
Henry sold that land in 1805 in Greene Co. PA . Same land gotten from brother George.
Deed states George, Henry and John were brothers of this place Greene Co. PA.

Their  parent was a Johann HOFFMAN .  Our now deceased cousin was working this line and
for some reason when she died. Daughter never forwarded her work or shared the data we both worked on for so long.  There was a group of us and we split up the research and shared.
4 eyes are better than 2 and 8 eyes were even better. When Shared  : > )

I have much more data on these lines and their not spoken of siblings we were able to flush out.
Rudolph Huffman was related, we think he was a brother, otherwise a cousin.  That line has the same genetic marks ours do.  I hope the disc the cousin sent (now dcd) will still be openable.  He was WW2 Vet.

   Now about GGrandfather Franklin. I heard he was referred to as Frank.  My Mother, Dorothy Inez Hoffman loved this man very much. She shared many events she shared with him.  Being small setting on his lap and combing his beard. So soft and pretty she said. He was a BrickLayer with a business, Moravia, IA. Moved to Wheatland, Wyoming.  After her death he moved west.  She was young enough to set on his lap when he went to WYO.  She was expecting me when he died so could not make trip to IOWA for funeral. 1940.

Many of his siblings had gone to NE, WYO and some stayed in Moravia, IA. They're yet today they are.  His father became a Traveling Minister and farmer.  His mother loved canaries.  Coal mine back ground in her line and a canary was important to have in  house to know the air was safe to breathe.
His mother was a hat maker and taught the trade to the girls. She never allowed bartering or trade on the Sabbath.  She loved to garden and help her family.  Some of this comes from notes from Violet Hampton's letters to me. Oliena's daughter. Frank's niece.

Some also came from the Scott side of family that my Grandfather Cecil (his son) married into. Lots of inter marriages. They lost several children and had living Robert and Grace and Grandad Cecil L.






Tuesday, July 17, 2018

WHERE ARE YOU LOOKING?

  WHERE ARE YOU LOOKING?

Having just laid down a journal on genealogy, my thoughts went to so many that can not afford to use Ancestry and other major suppliers of data.

It seems everyone wants to leap on to the computer and come up with answers.  So grateful that I was able to latch onto these quarterlies from many various eastern research facilities. thinking they may be helpful.

Shirley Becker visited this morning and scanned three of them and said, "wow."  She found several of her names she hasn't found on major sites.

I am figuring these were put together before the Internet by many, many years and the data is overwhelming.  Wills, Obits, Land Records, Probates, Tax records, and the list goes on.

For that was the way you learned data in the  50's and later until the 2000's. I started on Computer in 1990. To do Genealogy and it was to enjoy chatting with others looking for information in the same place I was.  

Sharing was so important and because we shared we learned more quickly than this stay at home and do it alone method of today.

Go find you a library that carries the Quarterlies, and pamphlets that we used in days of old.

OGS, Ohio Genealogical Society has helped Mary find much data she was not able to find previous to reading my old ones.

We know NGS creates them National Genealogical Society,

New England Historical and Genealogical Society.  NEHGS  has two versions I have found so far.

Greene Co., Pennsylvania has a great one called Cornerstone Clues.  Berkeley, Virginia has another,

Surname Books should never be removed from a library.  They will never go out of date.

It is sad the libraries removed the phone books. They were a major source of confirming living residences.

Look in the History section of you local Library, try the Colleges and Universities in your region.


Some titles:  Vermont Genealogy,, Rhode Island Genealogical Register,  OGS for Ohio Genealogical Society, (they also have county books if you join you can acquire).

The list could go on and on but if you are new and not wealthy find a genealogical library and look at what is on the shelves for answers you may have to pay dearly for otherwise.

Even our local society puts out a monthly newsletter and it carries nominal information for researchers.
Several of our local groups have newsletters.

Contact a local society and see what more  you can learn.

Of course, you can try the National Archives, Universities, Colleges and the list goes on.

We also have Library shelves filled with books at the Chula Vista Library on 4th and F St. in Chula Vista, CA.

Monday, July 16, 2018

My Heritage.com has DNA on sale

Dear Susi,


Hope all is well on your side.

I wanted to make sure you know about the DNA Flash Sale happening right now in the U.S. Now through July 18, MyHeritage DNA kits are only $59! 

Please share this with friends and followers, and invite them to take advantage of this great deal directly on www.MyHeritageDNA.com

Enjoy,

Daniel Horowitz
Genealogy Expert



MyHeritage (USA) Inc.,
2975 Executive Parkway,
Lehi, Utah


Thanks Daniel, 

Passing it on to all whom read the blog.

Great bargain, give it a try,  

I have used this company.  : > ) 


Tuesday, July 10, 2018

The Pots that are being Stirred.



Wow, gathering it is time to see  how the pots are being stirred in our trees of names and places.

Having received several emails on the JONES line(NE), it is very fascinating to read.  Then the mail box fills with HOFFMAN information.  We just did a bit of PLANTS information.  Helen stirred and found some very interesting FRY/FRYE information.

Having to read through all this,  hoping something jumps out at me that helps me resolve some conflicting issues.

As stated at the Greene Co. Facebook site.  I like to ask the same question to several kin of a specific individual because we always get a variant a bit different than another person.  Some remember more information some less but almost always they recall something previously not mentioned.

Love doing Time Lines for that very reason.

Pictures bring back memories and help eradicate myths.

Our trip through the President Ford museum triggered many thoughts that had not been brought up or broached in the family regarding information on our trees.

We have had information come on Mass, Rhode Island, New York, Iowa and Ill for JONES
 Then the skies opened up with data on PLANT's, then HOFFMAN's that cover: Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania early..  Mentions of Germany as origins.  But remembering Germany was not a state until late 1880's or about then. It has to be a ? Germanic region or another term.

Also learned that Europeans do not always have the struggles we do if the Church records were properly kept.  Sounds like some of our Southern friends that dig in Mexico and that region. If records are kept they can learn a lot quickly if not they dig like the rest of us.

In the early years of record keeping the CHURCH  kept all those records faith or religion was not the problem they were the record keepers.

One distant cousin in today Germany said in a town in Poland (old Prussia) the three Churches had all the data they were looking for in each region they were researching.

If war hit that area you may or may not get what you are hoping for, but generally you garner a lot you may not expect.

Helen found a group of letters written by deceased cousins we never got on the web page when she got ill so we are hoping to get that data that was confirmed put up on line. I need to locate all the old records we had that verified our data for the site.  Some were on hard drive that died many are in Avon boxes with lots of other names and papers.

I just find it hard to work in the sticky heat with paper and think clearly.

My Sweet Cousin and I are thinking of putting up a page on Facebook for a specific name. Still mulling over the work involved.

With no Refrigerator and Ice it really gets hard to think.83 degrees and humidity the same again. Sky looks like rain but it probably won't happen this close to coast. Mountains Alpine area got some earlier today. But then they almost burnt to ground the other day too. Fireman saved bulk of the town.

If you have information on these above lines, add to our  pot and we will keep stirring to see who else may bring information to verify stories and events.

Share your data please. It helps everyone.


NE is New England.

Thursday, July 5, 2018

Celebrating Celebrating and Celebrating


Yes, it is our Anniversary today..  Yes, it is our Grandson's birthday today.  So we are Celebrating.


 Met this marvelous man via a friend at NAS Moffitt Field. Was introduced by my friend  Ed (HOOT) Gibson, to him.  He was also Ed's friend in the service.

 Having gone to the Club to break an engagement with an interesting  man that met with parents approval but not mine. Our mutual buddy Hoot, met me and we shared chat and life and family while waiting for the soon to be ex to appear and  Hoot was waiting for his buddy to come in.   Hoot was very married to a marvelous woman and I had hoped to meet her some day.  His "Hoot's"room mate was my classmates brother in high school.  So I had known him for a few years already.

Well, time moved on and I told the ex to go enjoy the buxoming blonde he was dancing with and have a great life.
Shortly after, as we, Hoot and I were talking about his family, I was drawn to a person that had entered the Club.  He didn't see that person come in.  But my reaction was startling.
I said to Ed," Wow my brain is gone nuts, it just told me that, that was the kind of guy I wanted to marry."
I was laughing so hard at the thought and having just broke up with a person, it was hysterical.

Ed HOOT says, It's Okay Susi, I think you will enjoy my friend.. He is a confirmed batchelor  but a very nice person.  I said,"great not looking to get involved right now."

Well this was mid February. We married in July and were engaged Memorial Weekend. He even went to meet my parents and get Dad's approval.  Which was given reluctantly.  They still wanted me to marry that other person.   No, they did not come to the wedding but other relatives that lived near did.

Mom in later years, told me that they thought if they did not come I would not marry him.  The loss was my sister couldn't be my bridesmaid and my siblings were not able to attend the wedding. I am the oldest of them. Fortunately Vivann Myers stepped in and I gave her the dress to keep. It was my prom dress. It looked stunning on her and I hope she wore it to other events before the Hurricane hit LA.  (My last contact was after their second child and they were worried about the Hurricane, she called me and Cal was out on a boat working.)  Cal did not stay in the Navy like Fred did.


Many years later after having 5 children, our second son had his 2nd son born on our Anniversary.
 5 seems to be a good number for us.  Oldest grandson born on a 5. younger grandson born on a 4 just couldn't wait, middle one on a 5.

Andrew Pentico the delight you have brought us is overwhelming. Your growth as an adult and preparation for your marriage is suburb.  The adversities you had to overcome were many and some you will still battle, as we all do.  Maturing some times is the pits but I have found it to be the most rewarding thing we can to is mature and reach out to others as they have reached out to us.

We have ten grandchildren and 2 great grandchildren.  We have three marriages coming up.

My, I wonder what all that will bring.  All our Grandchildren have graduated High School, some have graduated college, some in college. But College is not always the answer. We still need technically trained humans in our world.  Mostly we need them to be alert, caring, and considerate of others, to remember we believe in God and go forth with satisfaction in what you have accomplished in the past to carry into the future.

Our past gave us great people to remember, that fought to create this country, that shared their country with the new comers, to create what we are today. Never forget that the past helps to build what your future can be if you want it.

Looking forward to what the other grandchildren are going to do with their lives and share with us.
We are so proud of all of them and what they have already accomplished.  More stories to come.

Thursday, June 21, 2018

For the Researchers in the Family and family.


Having gotten an invite to attend a Seminar up the coast I wanted to  post it here. Because friend James Tanner also has commented on this topic today.

Understanding it is a a resource we do not use and. or are not familiar with.

Also understand it was not always easy access.

Here is what James T said.

I have written about the Digital Public Library of America or DPLA quite a few times. Their free online images, texts, videos, and sounds have grown to 22,361,822. They have many valuable family history resources and lot more. Recently, they launched a new online resource, the Open Bookshelf. Here is a quote from their announcement.
The Digital Public Library of America (DPLA) is pleased to announce the launch of Open Bookshelf, a digital library collection of popular books free to download and handpicked by librarians across the US. The collection currently has more than 1,000 books, with new titles added daily. Open Bookshelf is designed both for libraries and for readers: it is currently available to libraries through the DPLA Exchange and to readers via the SimplyE mobile app. 
Open Bookshelf contains an exciting, diverse collection of titles spanning a myriad of genres. Readers will find: the classics they know and love, from Austen to Twain, updated for EPUB 3.0 format with beautiful covers; the best Creative-Commons licensed works from innovative authors like Cory Doctorow; freely available textbooks and academic titles representing the push for open scholarship; and an exciting multicultural children’s collection.

“With Open Bookshelf, free-licensed ebook content will no longer be a second class citizen in libraries,” said Eric Hellman, president of the Free Ebook Foundation. “The Free Ebook Foundation is thrilled to be contributing feeds from Unglue.it to the project." 
Open Bookshelf titles are selected by DPLA’s Curation Corps, a team of librarians and information professionals representing communities across the US. They have built the collection on a title-by-title basis, using their expertise to add books readers will enjoy.

Ventura CountyGenealogical Society is doing a mini seminar on this also. Posted below from their invite.

 THE VENTURA COUNTY GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY presents a
Free Family History Mini-Seminar
Saturday, July 21, 2018 at the
Camarillo Library Community Room 4101 Las Posas Road, Camarillo, CA

PRESENTATIONS BY COLLEEN GREENE:
1:00 P.M. UTILIZING THE DIGITAL PUBLIC LIBRARY OF AMERICA & THE HATHITRUST FOR FAMILY RESEARCH
The Digital Public Library of America (DPLA) and the HathiTrust Digital Library are two relatively new innovative resources to incorporate into your family history research. Both house and provide gateways to consortia-shared rich digitized collections that can be accessed online and on your mobile devices for free. Well-designed navigation and collection organization, combined with advanced search and discovery features, make it easy to quickly and effectively locate materials relevant to your research focus, and its mapping and time-focused features make it possible to gain a better understanding of the types of records available for different places and times. HathiTrust’s innovative reading features make it easy to quickly locate your ancestors in its extensive collection of public domain published family histories and historical materials. You will walk away from this lecture with two new favorite websites for your research toolkit.

They also have another topic to  present see further data here.

Colleen Greene, MLIS, is a librarian, educator, and web developer. She is the Marketing Librarian and Digital Humanities Specialist for California State University, Fullerton, and teaches an online graduate-level genealogical methodology course for San Jose State University. Her teaching focuses on Mexican and Hispanic research, DNA, methodology, search strategies, emerging technologies, and society marketing and communications.

Visit our website https://venturacogensoc.org/

Tuesday, June 19, 2018

Inez Mae Scott Hoffman, Surprise, Surprise

   


   Having just looked at Grandma's Mtdna data on line for the first time in a while, I have a surprise for you Grandma.  Your Indian is showing.

    Grandad Hoffman would just love to hear that and so what my Uncle Gerald O Jones.

     The stories they told of your love for the Indians makes this all to priceless to let it slip by.

     Your Scotch and Irish shows but some very interesting other lineages show up also.

      Calling your son in the morning and sharing this data. I do not think he has looked at it for a      while.

       Great Grandad Franklin Hoffman is laughing in his mirth over this I am sure.

       To think the picture book could not be brought into the home because it had a picture of an Indian in it.  My, my. my.   Mom was I ever surprised to see that some of my conjecture for her
(Grandma's) feelings seems to have been accurate.

       Yes Mom, you were correct, your Irish-Scotch, German, Indian etc heritage would play havoc with your moods on various days.

         I suspect Bulah Beal has since learned much the same since I located a link to their family tree long before our Mom passed but Mrs. Beal had.  Fred Beal and I worked on it, her son.

         Interesting the conference in Grand Rapids, Michigan helped me to bring to light things that we just took for granted but never thought to look at in real world.

         People on the east coast tend to be closer to the home grounds and dig differently than those of us that are so far away we have to find a common ground and build up to go back to the beginning.

         Why would I remember this, well in Grand Rapids there are two city blocks that are near identical to, two city blocks in Petaluma, CA.  Those houses are identical.  I had to go around the block again to see if mind playing tricks on me.

         Did they move from Grand Rapids to Petaluma,? use the same architect?  Has anyone ever notice the buildings the same in two different places before.  O yes, barns were copied we know that but large homes. I just have never seen that before.

          But by going east, having seen it and being exposed to different ways to look at research was a real eye opener. It makes Land Records even more important but also Architectural  designs a note to ponder.

          Let alone those hidden blood lines that are  popping up to my delight and Grandad's.
Sorry Grandma but I do still love you.  It just established more Indian heritage for me.

Sunday, June 17, 2018

Father's Day Enjoyed 2018 Style



  Father's Day was enjoyed by my husband, our children's Father.  Those who lived near that could come and share food and companionship arrived after Church events etc.   Son away called and chatted.  I called him back after giving his Dad his gift.  It brought about that impish grin he gets.

The grandson did the BBQue of Burgers and Dogs, he also furnished them.  Candy made Potato Salad and upside down pineapple cake for Dad for the week. Bj furnished chips, Pork and Beans and other items needed.  Ed brought a Coconut Cream pie which is both his and Dad's favorite.  Peggy supplied chips and her special dip, which Alicia absolutely loves, also an very interesting Salsa that Mary couldn't stay out of. : > ) Bob came to eat while he is remodeling a home for a friend near us.

Alan called us also and shared time with his Dad. He is recovering from Sinus and an Busy Busy week. Was great to hear his voice.

Steve and Clementine, brought Grandad a picture of the two Great Grands and himself. The picture frame was done by Clementine. The picture was posted on Facebook earlier.

The hummingbirds if they ever return in force got another new feeder sure hope we see more than the one soon.

Going to hang one in front tree. If we can keep the cats out of the bird nest and tree.

Cats need kept at home. Having presented him with more books to read, Mr. Patterson and Janet Evanovich, we trust he had a great day. He is still smiling.

In three weeks we will be married 59 years.  Yes, DAD it did last.  Love and Miss you too.

Thursday, June 14, 2018

Information to Stir the Pot

 I am going to post various web sites for you to look at.

Some affect our heritage some is just ancient history.

New sites to look at and ponder.


27 Public Libraries and the Internet Archive Launch “Community Webs” for Local History Web

http://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/

https://www.gaia.com/lp/ancient-civilizations/?utm_source=facebook+paid&utm_medium=cpm&utm_campaign=st-ancientcivilizations&utm_content=talent&utm_term=dynamic-video&ch=st

http://blitzlift.com/rare-civil-war-photos/15/

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2018/06/lost-colony-roanoke-history-theories-croatoan/?beta=true   New Findings


Family Matters

https://clarysville.lib.wvu.edu/?_=1522943150372&f%5Bregiment_sim%5D%5B%5D=23+O+V+I+%5B23rd+Ohio+Volunteer+I

http://www.ohiocivilwar.com/

http://www.wvgenweb.org/wetzel/index.html

https://www.nypl.org/blog/2016/09/19/loyalist-property-confiscation

http://www.theancestorhunt.com/blog/connecticut-birth-marriage-and-death-bmd-record-links#.WyMyPyMrIuh

https://www.livescience.com/61905-giant-family-tree.html#?utm_source=ls-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=03022018-ls

https://tornadoughalli.com/kool-aid-pickles/

http://www.ourfamilyhistories.com/hsdurbin/

Wednesday, June 6, 2018

More Jones Blathering, but found good data.

As you may know my trip to Grand Rapids, Michigan came with a few twists.   We had a great time and even walked across the Grand River to President Gerald Fords' Museum. Listened to singers and toured the Museum.

Amazed as to how seeing things of that time frame brought back genealogical things that had not been thought of.

Attended various talks that were felt would help our members with some of their troubles. Talked to various vendors and gave a few cousins some hugs.  We get to meet ever so many years it seems.

Meet a couple of Facebook friends and shared information. Missed many cousins that were there but did not ever cross their path. Tis okay maybe a next time they will cross paths. Did locate one new member to the family.

Later due to ailment of son I stayed longer and on a good weekend with sons to watch their Dad, daughter in law and I went to Ft. Wayne to the Library.

Having located the data I needed for four years was very excited. DIL found data on her Alexanders and was thrilled.  

If you have Alexander from Maryland, Virginia to North Carolina to Georgia and on westward please contact Liz or I.    She is stuck on Adam Alexander of NC to Georgia.  Only about five listed  : > )

She also has Allen and Moody to add to this mix.

The books I needed did divulge  some data on Teague Jones and other family members.

Brought back about 20 pages on various members of the family: Jones,
Berry, Hamilton, Allen, for starts.  Also found data on Foulk /Follk for PA and Lee for VA.

O yes some on Richard Higgin's also ie Higgen's.

More to follow when I get caught up.

Cox.net email is still causing fits so bear with me.

SusiCP1@gmail.com     Liz is dpcreations@peoplepc.com




Sunday, May 27, 2018

Fort Wayne , Indiana.

Georgia Reseach and. North Carolina ,land of the past.


As we researched data in Georgia,  it kept referring to North  Carolina.   Later in the day it referred to
Halifax, Va.  Even later in the day we were back up into Maryland, prior to that Scotland.

The fun part was the library had a book on the probate records for Mecklenburg County.  Volume one is filled with Alexander’s.  It even mentions some Morrow’s.

We have in common, a few of the surnames.  

We have Morrow,  in common.   Having done little search in Georgia, thought I might grasp my line better.

She has Alexander, some rather famous is well known War Veterans, a Governor and many others whom settle in North Carolina then some to Georgia.

Yes, they also moved to other areas in common wither our lines and then our lines meet again..


Genealogy can be fun one learns so much.

Friday, May 25, 2018

Grand Rapids Michigan and Genealogy



Yes, I made it to the conference. Chatted with some of my friends and family, learning many new thoughts.

As suspected, some of genealogical learning methods, thought of differently on this side of the Divide.

Attempting to master this computer device also.

Grand Rapids, Mi. Reminds me of home.   The architecture is so like much of Sonoma Co., Ca. ,
Especially Petaluma, Ca.  I saw homes that so looked  exactly alike, it makes me wonder how many in Petaluma, Ca came from this area of the USA.

Wondering if it was the time frame of development or people migrating that makes the development look so the same.

I would post pictures but not able to at this time, more learning needed.

Gerald Ford’s Museum, was a highlite for me..  Never been to a facility that highlighted a
President.  Alas no place to get postcards or mommento’s.

The  Grand River separated the Conference/Seminar area from the Museum.  We walked across the Grand River to go to a Open
House their.

We were entertained by a Choral Group.  We went up stairs and toured the alcoves of  documents, pictures, clothing, and multi other mommento’s.

Having taken a picture of the aircraft carrier named for him showing the planes that would have been aboard. The E 2-Hawkeye was on the catapult shown about to launch.  It was very exciting to see.


O yes, they had the Presidential Office furniture, flags, and so much more on display.

It would have been super had they had his lineage, displayed somewhere.  

Part 2 to follow'

Sunday, April 22, 2018

Jones Blathering, tidbits here and there.

1 Jones Tidbits and confusion yes -no.

1.  about  1785  birth  near Albany ?  Noel Jones
     Supposed son of Ruscomb Jones ???  Need facts of some kind.

        Found Ruscomb Jones in 1840 census

2.  Noel Jones  Census 1810 with wife and son Noyes, Direct distant Grandfather. Noyes is under ten which concurs with Petersburg, Court Records.

3.  Not before nor after. to be found Noel and Susannah JONES -- Noyes Parents.


4.  Many Noel's born after 1810 to various Jones kin.

5.   Noyes Jones is sometimes spelt NOIS, NOYCE.  And maybe even NORRIS.
      A marriage record of a son claimed him as NORRIS JONE wife Susan Madison?
       This child was the last  born of Noyes and Susan and just before they headed to Illinois.

6.  Noyes  Jones and Susan are in Nunda, Ill when the boys enlisted in the Civil War.

7.  Unsure how many served, Have records for Calvin and William Harrison, still looking.

8.  One son Noel b 1835 Mass ??   This son did not come west with family. Story was he was killed in accident before the left NY.
   a .1850 census has him as 1837 birth, ( yes with family then.)

   b. Data found unknown whom this is:


Noel 1828 d 1914   Thankful Scriven?? IS this Noyes and Susan Madison Jones son? or a nephew or cousin?

 I know according to Mabel Hewitt's records some JONES ma SCRIVEN.  pages missing from report from Bennington Vt. Library.

9.  To confuse matters worse there is a Noel Jones who lived this region who went to Utica, NY with a son Noel b 1813. He worked as a shoe maker.  Born about 1785.  Found in Utica add in paper and Census. 

10.  He then took son and went to Allegheny Co. NY.  Only those 2 were listed on census.

11.   This Noel JONES fits time for birth but not for child or wife or the fact he had multi wives and 
was drugged at death and the current wife had him declared not stable at death but okay when changed WILL.  Recently I learned the Judge was her Uncle.  The daughter went to court to get it reversed and the Judge said no. HIs earlier children got nothing. The young young lady and baby got it all. I would think they should have been able to have the Judge removed and retried for interference.  Also I wonder if that child was his she was carrying due to his health situation.

His Dr even went to court to say this was wrong, Judge overruled.  

12.  My records only show Noel with Noyes and Susanah his wife in Petersburg Court Records and then 1810 census.  

Did they die from disease, War of 1812,  Can any one explain this misdirection of data.?
IS there a way to see if the courts granted this family in Western NY a re trial? I am finding very very scant records. Except that death mess and court hearing at FS records. 

13. Noyes Jones last son was born 9 Sept  1850 in Petersburg area, His name was Charles Edward.
he married a Betsey Bartlett in Ill or IA not found records yet.  His second marriage was 1905 to Susan Lantz.  He died 1916.   He was old enough to serve in Civil War, not found any records yet.


14.  Noyes and Susan's daughters had husbands that may have served. Need to check them out also.

Jennie b 1847 d 28 Feb 1874 m Fred APEL  

Arvilla  married two brothers Alfred and Addison JOHNSON.  I had full story on them before back updrive crashed.  When one brother died she married the other one.

Lucy  Loretta Jones  b 1 Jan 1847  d 2 June 1931 Monticello, Tama, IA  m William FULLER
Birth Year (Estimated)
1847
Father's Name
Mother's Name
Susan
Spouse's Name
Certificate Number
5375

Citing this Record
"Iowa, Death Records, 1921-1940," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q248-L7ZX : 31 October 2016), Susan in entry for Lucy Loretta Fuller, 02 Jun 1931, Monticello, Tama, Iowa, United States; citing certificate #5375, State Historical Society of Iowa, Des Moines; FamilySearch digital folder 

They had 4 girls.

Other Jones cousins do you have data to verify any of this besides the data I have.?  I have never heard that Henry George ie George Henry was married twice.  ????

Anyone find data on NOEL JONES b1835?

Did William Harrison Jones marry the day before they shipped out?